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If you consider the concept of abstraction, it seems inevitable that people eventually stop caring much about how or why the black box works. Then consider how many layers of abstraction have been agglutinated over the years.

It makes sense that it's confusing now.


Then you're a fool. Stop trying to foist your lack of critical thought on others.


You are wrong. As citizens we can grant and revoke government powers at will. Cutting off or significantly curtailing their revenue would have a similar effect.

EDIT: There would need to be a concomitant cultural change as well. As it stands folks are not aware of or engaged with what their government is doing.

Even if we replaced every government official today, it could quickly devolve back to its current state.


>You are wrong. As citizens we can grant and revoke government powers at will.

Theoretically. First you would need someone with these beliefs to run for office. You would need them to win office, in a position where they have the power to change the laws. Then you would need them to resist the temptation to listen to lobbyists trying to change their mind. Then you would need a vote to pass. Then you would need the government agencies to agree (just because the law says something, doesn't mean everyone agrees). Generally this would take going to a high court who forces the government to comply. Hopefully that court is public and not a private rubber stamp committee.

Theoretically, we can revoke government positions. But we need politicians to do it on our behalf, and we don't really have politicians who are willing to do that.


What's needed is a team of 51 people winning Senate seats and a team of 218 people winning House seats. Getting that team in place will require a sustained, 4-6 year effort since a 3rd of representatives are elected each year.

Pulling off such a takeover is possible, though it would be a lot of work. Voter turnout for Senate and House has been between 36% and 53%.[0],[1] Traditionally campaign finance has been considered a barrier to electing good representatives; however, the hold campaign advertising has over our election process may be weakening. People under 35 spend less time consuming traditional media where campaign ads run and more time on YouTube and social media. A campaign focused on voters under 35 might be enough to create significant change. In California, for example, there are almost enough people between the ages of 18-35 to make a win possible if those people voted as a team.[2]

[0]: http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0397.p...

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_Sta...

[2]: http://www.infoplease.com/us/census/data/california/demograp...


Nope. These are rights granted by the Constitution. The difficulty would be in getting people to care.


You're not wrong. The problem, though, is that I'm still right. Yes, theoretically we can change things. The way this happens is through our elected officials, not via us directly. If our elected officials are unwilling to change, there's not much we can do to force it. Literally the only way the Constitution allows for us to change things is if we vote someone into office who will change it, and then it still hinges on them actually changing things, which historically hasn't happened.

You can repeat the Constitution until you're blue in the face, but just because something sounds easy on paper doesn't mean it's easy or even plausible in reality.


Texas tried to make TSA gate-groping unambiguously illegal, and the federal government credibly threatened to end all flights to and from Texas, causing Texas to back down.


Great. This is how a deluded statist stooge thinks after 40 years of indoctrination.

EDIT: Why was this even posted? Useless garbage.


Well, I found it equally fascinating and horrifying. You don't need to agree with or admire an author to be able to learn things from their writing.


I'm guessing because most people still think they can make the state work.... through better organized meetings, education, communication, etc.

You sound anti-statist. Maybe you want stuff like this: http://mises.org/library/myth-national-defense-essays-theory...


Despite the downvotes I'm inclined to agree with you. For a recent counter-example, Robert David Steele is an ex CIA open source intelligence analyst who didn't become numbed and deluded like this and actually has some meaningful anti-statist insights about the world at large. You know, gems like:

Human beings, who had spent centuries evolving away from slavery, were re-commoditized by the Industrial Era.

We are at the end of a five-thousand-year-plus historical process during which human society grew in scale while it abandoned the early indigenous wisdom councils and communal decision-making. Power was centralised in the hands of increasingly specialised 'elites' and 'experts' who not only failed to achieve all they promised but used secrecy and the control of information to deceive the public into allowing them to retain power over community resources that they ultimately looted.

We live in a constellation of complex systems. It is impossible for any single person or even any single organization or nation in isolation to understand complex systems.

It is our obligation to speak of what we know as we know it, not dissembling or deceiving. This could be considered the 'moral truth', and ultimately it is what can be validated by others so that a consensus can be arrived at and shared.

- Robert David Steele, 'The Open-source Everything Manifesto'


I think it's a phenomenon worth examining. There isn't a simple answer. Part of it must be changes in American culture. What those changes are is debatable.


Yes, "good" can mean many things depending on what the person saying it believes.


Let's see if this mistake happens again.


They have plenty of patience if you have enough money.


GF doesn't care. Their main goal is to ensure the endowment performs as expected.


Is this criticism facile? In what ways is it false?

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critiq...



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