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Or you do as OpenAI & Co. do and just rent out a service

When, not if...

It's called "clean room reverse engineering" /s

That's an interesting one.

If you take the statement: "Pretty much 100% of our code is written by Claude Code" (https://x.com/bcherny/status/2015979257038831967)

And you take the statement: "Mononoke is open source and in every LLM’s training set."

There is not much resemblance with any cleanroom implementation anymore.


I think nothing made with Claude Code (or Codex etc.) should be called clean room really.

Do you think if an LLM-based-program produced the natural language spec, based on interacting with (and maybe decompiling etc.?) a program, and then a human took that natural language spec and implemented it without using any further LLM assistance, that this could count as clean room?

That's an interesting question... I'd say yes, because the human implementing it has no direct knowledge of the original code.

Clearly totally agree.

Interesting explainer in this intro for those who don't know the principle:

https://www.ntari.org/post/how-clean-room-reverse-engineerin...


PBS had a documentary back in the 1990s about the history of the PC that ran seemingly like once a month where they showed (compaq I guess video tape documented it it since they knew they would get sued) how Compaq reverse engineered... I forget now probably the IBM AT PC to produce the first true AT Compatable PC, and promptly got sued by IBM. They described the process in detail. This was growing up in Microsoft's back yard in the 1990s so practically every kid on the playground knew what reverse engineering was growing up. It makes me feel especially old watching people discover reverse engineering in 2026. /old man shouting at clouds

This was a very interesting read, thank you for sharing!

Why would a failure of a backup system require editing everything again? Something must have gotten lost in translation here.

Could be a combination of factors:

1. AI agent deletes the primary copy 2. Backup system fails (when did they last test the restoration process?), so they have no copies


Maybe their "backup system" was Onedrive and it was deleted with the local copy.

Raw rushes are still available on the original disks/cards, but the project files and any renders were stored on a single location with no backup or snapshotting.

You'd have to redo everything from scratch. Maybe your editor/director remembers what they want so its a bit faster this time round, if they are available, but its still a lot of work to rebuild the edit.


Or the storage system failed and the backup system failed to restore. Which to me sounds like the likeliest story.

Well, we knew about climate change at least in the 70s already, so...

You already know the answer...

I’m hoping for the answer to be wrong and for it to support it. Otherwise, I have no reason to upgrade.

There is only one model now.

It's also a hub for Apple Home and a Thread border router. And it works with HomePods.

It's a barebones barely functioning hub with hardly any functionality (because HomeKit itself is barely more than that).

Thread border router is nice I guess.

Integration with HomePods is ... well, if you have HomePods.

So... No real functionality to justify the price.


Oh I'm not saying those things justify the price. I just listed some features apart from streaming apps.

I guess if you're not really quite deep in the Apple ecosystem, there's probably better options.


HomePods are probably the only thing from the Apple evosystem that I don't have.

That doesn't stop me from being realistic about AppleTV: it's a waste of a product. It's a veritable supercomputer in your living room whose only purpose is streaming. Literally everything else is a crippled afterthought.

That's why I was baffled by the original comment: "$300 might be a decent price if you use it for all of the things that it can do". It doesn't do a lot, does it?


But are we not told that LLMs are so powerful that nobody would need to spend time to engineer that?

They could even just call it GNU is now UNIX.

It was Stallman who came up with the name POSIX by the way.


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