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I am all for exciting new VPN technologies but even the home page is vibecoded.

> Many flows. One connection shape

Shape, shape... shape.

I feel up until AI, nobody with their right mind would refer to the shape of a connection.


That's how you know there's nothing exciting here. Just some ordinary technology rehyped by AI phrasing.

Yeah. Sounds like just wstunnel would be equivalent in many ways.

https://github.com/erebe/wstunnel


When does it give birth to a new market?

There is also iphub.info and iphunter.info.

In my experience, out of the two, iphunter.info has the more comprehensive database, I think the owner/operator frequents HN.


Could even be cleaning or security.

As someone elsewhere in the thread noted, this could well be the press. Could also be that this isn’t the White House network at all despite that attribution.

Right, we know the White House owns that public IP, but this could be as bad as an unsecured, unmanaged device that is joined to a private network that is supposed to be secured, OR, on the “all the way good” side, that IP could be the exit for a completely throwaway, untrusted, isolated LAN segment meant only for some iOT device and which has no route to any other peer on the LAN side, and some civilian who has access to that for work brought in his laptop with a “free VPN!” Plugin and joined it to that network because it’s all he had credentials for.

One would expect network activity related to the press to be concentrated during daytime hours, not between 5 PM and midnight.

> SaaS-shaped

The usage of shape here triggers me.


Your words are comment-shaped.

Anything remotely shape-shaped triggers me!

Very interesting. But I'd imagine they aren't doing proper KYC to get an ExtraCare card, I bet it is very soft KYC. Like phone number verification or card payment which you can get anonymously, so it won't necessarily do too much to find the perpetrator. I wonder if it works through throttling and blacklisting so the loss and damage radius are reduced.

At the same time, though, the thought is "a criminal won't give out their business burner's cellphone number" to sign up for a card/unlock a case. There's still an additional level of self-selection required to be honest enough to want to acquire the loyalty card that a "dishonest" person does not want to spend time doing (they want to snatch and run).

Same reason Walmart gated the self-checkout Scan-and-Go-via-phone system behind a paid membership on Walmart+, criminal's not gonna burn fifty bucks to steal a couple times if they have to hand over anything vaguely close to PII, even if it's burner PII.


I don't think KYC is relevant here.

Shape triggers me as well now.

At least it will be better moving forward, one can hope.


KYC definitely won't happen. But that aside the funny thing is, HyperLiquid isn't actually decentralized in a traditional sense. They have like 5 validating nodes and all operated by HyperLiquid affiliates.

Also the XYZ markets that the stock tokens "live on" is not managed by HyperLiquid as far as I know.


I would say this is slightly wrong. For one, they are up to 27 validating nodes. The limited nodes is to get their .2s settlement time and also to prevent frontrunning or MEV attacks, as they implement an actual CLOB. HyperLiquid is also non-custodial, you keep USDC in a self-owned wallet on the Arbitrum network. The funds do not move until your transaction on HyperLiquid settles.


You're right, it seems there are more validating nodes now. Not sure about the ownership information of course. They need to be whitelisted to take part, right? That's why I treat it as somewhat distributed rather than decentralized in a traditional crypto way.

Running a node for HL takes a lot of resources too.

But yeah they are non-custodial which is great.


I enjoyed his backstory. We all could have also just not replied and upvoted the post but here we are passing information back and forth and finding joy in it in the process.


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