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Strangely, the article you quoted does not mention those "tens of thousands russian survivors" applying for asylum in Finland (as only hundreds do each year). Are you sure you got your numbers right?

> Strangely, the article you quoted does not mention those "tens of thousands russian survivors"

So do you imply that if some article does not mention them, they are not exist or what?

> applying for asylum in Finland (as only hundreds do each year).

It is exactly because any contacts with the officials = deportation and jail. Chances for getting asylum are so small that only people with additional migration opportunities or with the connections with elites in the government are trying to go that way.


It's just that your claim of tens of thousands of russians crossing the border illegally sounds very strange to me, that's why I was wondering what your source for the number is. As such the claim sounds just as bogus as the idea that authorities in Finland are arresting people protesting outside russian embassy and deporting them.

> It's just that your claim of tens of thousands of russians crossing the border illegally sounds very strange to me

Sounds pretty obvious to me, considering that they don't want to go to the Russian jails, does not have a way to cross the border legally and have the ways to cross it illegally.

> authorities in Finland are arresting people protesting outside russian embassy and deporting them.

And in your mind what is exactly happening to those people?


> they’re marketing very aggressively through posts that slander GraphenOS

I would really appreciate it if you could give some references - any at all - to back this claim.

All I have seen is GrapheneOS folks (or probably just a certain individual affiliated with the GrapheneOS org) accusing them of doing this.


If what you want is android and you have privacy concerns, GrapheneOS is probably the best you can get.

Then again, SailfishOS is a linux with much of the usual linux stuff like userland with bash, coreutils, glibc, systemd, wayland, pulseaudio etc.


And way less security, sandboxing is far more limited and the default profile looks pretty much YOLO:

https://github.com/sailfishos/sailjail-permissions/blob/mast...

Given how sensitive information most people have on their phones (banking, chats, and whatnot), it's a disaster in the making.

The typical answer is "but I'll only use open source apps that I trust". Sandboxing doesn't only protect you against rogue apps, it primarily protects you against 0-days in apps that you do trust.


It's very simple, this is about the threat model.

If you are worried about big players profiling you (hard to avoid, high likelihood of happening, low likelihood of damage), then you want Sailfish.

If you are worried about apps profiling you (easy to avoid, high likelihood of happening, moderate likelihood of damage), you want Android or iOS.

Graphene and Sailfish sit on different points on that spectrum, just like OpenBSD and Linux do.


Sorry, this does not make any sense. E.g. vanilla GrapheneOS does not have Google Play services and no analytics from big players at all.

Even if you choose not to install Play Services/Play Store, you will still have access to many more apps than on SailfishOS - from many open source Android apps to proprietary apps that you can download without the Play Store. Plus, with the Linux terminal support in Pixels (note: not all Android phones support this, e.g. Snapdragons don't support privileged virtualization), you can also run Linux desktop apps.


Probably things like fixing the mainboards to the casing, putting in batteries, back covers, flashing the software, running hw tests, packaging etc.


I have a 32 GB iPad, I think it's the year 2020 model. The OS alone uses 19 GB ("iPadOS" 12.3 GB + "System Data" 6.4 GB) so yeah, not much chance doing any OTA updates on that one with the requirement of 13+ GB free.

Maybe some day the fruit company with all their billions will be able to innovate a solution for deploying for example browser fixes so that they can be installed without requiring tens of gigabytes of free storage on the device. Meanwhile, we're stuck using a computer and iTunes for that.


I guess it's subject to debate whether the cost indeed is prohibitive in the case of Norway. They are a small but extremely wealthy country - after all, they currently hold the equivalent of 1,5% of all the listed companies globally through the investments of their sovereign wealth fund.


They are also less than 2 months away from the first deliveries of the Jolla Phone 2026, a new SailfishOS device they have designed and built from scratch. Over the past years the official Sailfish experience has largely been relying on Sony Open Device program - a co-operation which hasn't always been very smooth for the customers.

I have been daily driving SFOS on a Sony Xperia 10 III for the past 3 years and it works well for me. I think the 10 III is the current "peak Sailfish" at least among the officially supported devices but this should change once the new phones roll out in early July. For new orders of the 2026 phone they are currently aiming for delivery in September in the supported markets (EU, UK, Norway and Switzerland).


I have rage-quit apple for a C2 and the muscle memory still kicks in after months. The ergonomy of Sailfish is sometimes bizarre, the little top left dot for navigation for example. Still it does everything I need, just with a very bad camera. Let's hope the 2026 will fix that.


Oh but you don't usually need to care for the dot itself so much as it's just an indicator that you can do a middle swipe left/right to move between stacked pages.


Ah yes, that explains it all! I'm still learning how to unlearn.


I've been on Apple for a couple of years after a decade on Android and I still haven't internalized all of iOS's inconsistencies. But admittedly I don't do much on my phone besides SMS, calendar, and maps, so using other apps is always a bit of initial relearning.


It certainly was political - with tax policies, you can make nuclear uneconomic which is exactly what happened in Sweden. For decades, the production and capacity taxes were a material part of the operating cost for operators. Only some 10 years ago the political positions started to change and become more nuclear-friendly.


This is the same issue that got a local drug organization busted some time ago - their entire α-PVP cooking operation was busted after one of the gang members was caught during a sale, his iphone was confiscated and the entire org was right there in the notification history.

I guess that's what you deserve if you trust apple with your operational security.


Oh but isn't that great. This is just the kind of digital sovereignty these times call for.

Sometimes I wish the Germans had an island of their own somewhere up north near the american continent.


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