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I honestly wonder how many of these types of studies aren't taking into account the other variables. Such as, low cardiorespiratory fitness leading to depression, or poor diet which obviously leads to diabetes, which means depression obviously can lead to diabetes. How much is causation versus correlation? The entire article goes beats around the bush until it finally admits, "And while a direct cause was not found for diabetes causing depression, experts still believe that the burden of living with type 2 diabetes may be a factor in developing depression." Basically all this research found was the people with obesity likely have depression and 37% of people with obesity have diabetes. The title is complete click-bait.


Because mental illnesses are a throwaway diagnoses for the doctor to say "nah, whatever, this is on you, think healthier and go take a pill for your symptoms we won't be doing any more diagnosis".

It seems much more likely that things like sleep disruption, persistent inflammation(gut dysbiosis, misc infections), metabolic disturbance(brain isn't getting enough energy to do its job) are causative of depression which manifests as reduced tolerance to stressful life events and ability to manage one's life, to me.

But instead we get the thought-terminating cliche of "depression causes everything else, so just go to therapy and stop looking for health problems"


Did you get to the actual study ? I couldn't, and these kind of articles are usually cutting important details off making them basically useless to properly understand what's at stake.


big tech is trying to erase this concept from the consumer mind. Assuming someone tried to do everything legally (not pirating) when was the last time anyone "owned" anything. Music, Movies, TV shows, Software, you don't own any of it you are simply paying for server space.


You couldn't have stated that more clearly. Is a disgrace. We're basically headed to rent features of all kinds. It's terrible.


It’s a point repeated practically infinite times daily on this website and any other tech community. It’s not a revelation deserving of accolades. It’s the nerd equivalent of “lower taxes!” at a political rally. This entire back and forth where all participants are clearly on the same side and are clearly regurgitating all the talking points of their shared ideology isn’t a conversation, it’s people patting eachother on the back.


Amazingly, this corporate desire goes back more than a hundred years. Edison cylinders had a "shrink-wrap" license trying to control what people did with the recordings they bought: https://www.flickr.com/photos/59414209@N00/5072909557/

That was later outlawed with the "first-sale doctrine": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

I would say that it seems like it's time for some new legislation that supports consumer freedom. But given the state of American politics, I can only hope that Europe will do some pioneering work on this.


Not just big tech; there's a reason why "you will own nothing and be happy" is a thing.


Interesting quote. I just came across the exact quote reading the latest of "The Upheaval" by N.S. Lyon


It originally came from the WEF:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25068820


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