If I try as hard as I possibly can and output 20% of an amazing individual. do I have no place in this world?
Listen, this is the basic level of human interaction. manners are oil for bodies at friction, and respect is a gateway to team participation.
If you cant see the value in that, then you are the problem. You can output a million times the output of your team, but if you dont have a team then you have nothing except yourself. and if you are the only reason for success.. why arent you Jeff Bezos?
"charismatic unproductive people who, despite all making each other feel good, don't actually bring any value to an organisation." -- This phrase stinks of devaluation. if you have a team that you view every member of as providing nothing of quality, then again.. you are the problem. Everyone has something to provide, on many different levels.you are failing to see that, and that is your problem.
but carry on my friend. if you are as amazing as you say, then ill read about you in the news soon.
As someone proclaiming that "manners are oil for bodies at friction", the ridiculousness of your rudeness is only surpassed by the unbelievable strawman you just set up.
blue1379 brings up some very valid questions. If a snobbish, but highly talented employee builds toolkits/engines that double or triple the production of the average employee, does the same equation used in the study apply?
On the other hand, what constitutes a "non-toxic" employee? Does everybody's buddy who convinces half the team that 2-5pm is ping pong and beer time not disproportionately decrease productivity?
He's asking for more nuance, which is never a bad thing. You seem to be demanding that things stay binary.
>If a snobbish, but highly talented employee builds toolkits/engines double or triple the production of the average employee
That person is not 'toxic' because the qualifier is that they have trained their coworkers on the frameworks they created, thus they actually get along.
I think the toxic version would be making statements like, "I spend all my time building frameworks that if my coworkers used them, would double their productivity, but they're obviously too stupid to understand. The more I hear their silly questions on how to use it, the more I realize how f'd hiring is around here that these people are 'coworkers'. So please, I give up, I'll use my frameworks and I'll be 8x more productive than them, just make them leave me alone so I can work."
> If a snobbish, but highly talented employee builds toolkits/engines that double or triple the production of the average employee, does the same equation used in the study apply?
What if we fire Mr Snobby Pants and hire someone who's both socially and technically competent?
I think you need to take a walk and cool down from internet conversation. If this is how you talk to your coworkers when confronted with disagreement then I don't think you're the "non-toxic" one in your office.
100% agree. People dont always make the right decisions, you may be dealing with a fish out of water in a job they chose, but dont belong in. People make mistakes. We all do, thats how we learn. Excellent comment.
>Everyone has something to provide, on many different levels.you are failing to see that, and that is your problem.
Totally false. Some prople are really bad at their jobs and gang up with other unproductive people to rag on those who are carrying the team. If you cant see that, you are probably insecure and rationalizing your hostility to people who are better and make you look bad in comparison.
Hold up.. there are "gangs" of bad employees who team up together just rag on those carrying the team.. (you... right?)
Man.. so glad Im insecure enough to rely on these gangs to fight my battles for me. Millions of bad employees but only 5 rockstar developers like yourself.
I know you're saying this sarcastically, but in the context of the rest of your comments, it sounds a lot more like self-pity. Take a second to read the comments you're responding and realize how much you're projecting your own complexes onto comments that are saying nothing close to what you seem to think they are.
perhaps you have brought your own Biases to the table.
"too pat" means its too simple, how does that work out when applying occam's razor?
Its easy to say "Junkies will be junkies", you are propagating this mentality and leaning on the crutch of the fallacy of single cause to iterate your own biases. The research is very clear.
Mayo Clinic: "Anyone who takes opioids is at risk of developing addiction. Your personal history and the length of time you use opioids play a role, but it's impossible to predict who's vulnerable to eventual dependence on and abuse of these drugs. Legal or illegal, stolen and shared, these drugs are responsible for the majority of overdose deaths in the U.S. today"
Us National Library of Medicine: "Opioid addiction is characterized by a powerful, compulsive urge to use opioid drugs, even when they are no longer required medically. Opioids have a high potential for causing addiction in some people, even when the medications are prescribed appropriately and taken as directed."
These reputable institutions havent tried to determine "future" addiction because the present data is loud and clear. Opioids are incredible addictive. I wonder why you are completely willing to ignore this data and instead blame the victims and sanctify the distributors. I think it speaks volumes for your position.
Instead of playing devils advocate, and vocalizing what you "dont buy". Rather analyse the query and ask people in the field. Your biases might give you comfort but it is not the truth and the truth deserves pursuing.
I have sent my father (who I no longer interact with) and my mother, a laptop with ubuntu installed. I have not had to support that thing for 5 years. it just runs. no updates, no virus scan ads. Its been amazing. i installed VLC player and firefox. They are living the life being "connected"
No updates at all. Its not my problem and I have expressed the dangers. Family situation prevents this kind of support and they wont stop using it. No issues at all. My fiance's aunt on the other hand (using windows) has had to call me frequently for virus/slow down/connecting printers etc.Its been a pain.
I have some clarification on this whole flat earth thing and it is insidious.
I have a father who is prone to believing conspiracy theories. When I grew up he bought me a thousand "unexplained mysteries" magazines. the topics ranged from spontaneous combustion to ghosts to Loch ness monster to the magazines primary focus.. aliens. I had an incredibly scary childhood. As I grew older i learned that the strange noises at night were not ghosts but the house settling or something like that. It took me years to find peace from his indoctrination.
Today, He doesn't care about any of those topics. They just seemed to slowly vanish from his radar. Today it is the invasion of "lesser" species trying to erode "Our" "Moral certainties"
- He believes Trump is the answer the world needs
- He believes Global warming is a myth created by Al Gore so he could take billions from the government
- He believes brown skin makes you less intelligent because your DNA prohibits you from excelling, "Nature has chosen white DNA"
- He believes the Rockerfeller's control the world through manipulation and bribery.
- He lives in South Africa, yet is obsessed with Palestinian Politics.
- He has a programmer son, and a Scientist Daughter, but routinely sends conspiracy theories to both of us to the point where I no longer interact with him
I spent many hours researching why this could happen. Why would a person abandon all reason and persue his own beliefs so fervently? It turns out that people are prone to conspiracy theories via their personality. They don't understand the world, dont trust the government, and therefore latch on to an explanation that explains the whole world to them. Anybody trying to explain the difficulty of the situation to them is therefore an "attacker".
The reason Flat earth is so insidious is that it has brought 3 active communities together.
1) The conspiracy crowd who does't trust the government ("The man")
2) Religious Christians who interpret the bible literally. ("The four corners of the earth")
3) Muslim culture being exterminated by christian "integrity". Christians view the muslim community by default as heathens.
4) the obvious crazies.
so you have 3 powerful, emotional motivators steering this conspiracy. to the point where good science is being applied well, to poor premises.
I was listening to a pod cast about this where the scientist in question was impressed by the level of scientific control over the completely insane premise.
I have not solved this problem or re-connected with my father. It is ongoing and the misinformation is just horrific. Right now I feel that humanity is as divided as ever, with corporations taking their biggest cut.
I honestly expected a completely different outcome to the freedome of information we have today. I expected enlightenment, but instead got people doubling down on their own beliefs and researching points to support them because emotions at the end of the day are more important than truth.
As a wood worker, the answer on the post does agreat job. I will add only one more point.
Wood working in 99% of cases does not lead to deforestation. In most countries it is hard to buy illegal wood. In South Africa we buy mostly pine where 2 trees are planted for every one sold. These forestries are heavily regulated and protected. They are businesses. The deforestation you usually hear about is in third world countries and not for wood sales but rather for land gain or things like palm oil.
If you are buying wood from a hardware outlet you can pretty much be guaranteed that it is safe wood. Many trees are protected by law nowadays.
In most cases, buying wood products actually increases tree mass globally and decreases pollution.
Buy wood products when you can. You will be planting more trees and decreasing pollution.
In terms of product lifecycle, there's no doubt that wood (or bamboo) is a good choice of material, plants are pulling CO2 out of the atmosphere and as long as what's built is maintained, that CO2 will remain sequestered. Contrast that with metals (which have to mined and processed, using huge amounts of energy) or plastics (from fossil fuels, also a headache to dispose of). Not to mention wood has grain, making it pleasant to look at.
If I try as hard as I possibly can and output 20% of an amazing individual. do I have no place in this world?
Listen, this is the basic level of human interaction. manners are oil for bodies at friction, and respect is a gateway to team participation.
If you cant see the value in that, then you are the problem. You can output a million times the output of your team, but if you dont have a team then you have nothing except yourself. and if you are the only reason for success.. why arent you Jeff Bezos?
"charismatic unproductive people who, despite all making each other feel good, don't actually bring any value to an organisation." -- This phrase stinks of devaluation. if you have a team that you view every member of as providing nothing of quality, then again.. you are the problem. Everyone has something to provide, on many different levels.you are failing to see that, and that is your problem.
but carry on my friend. if you are as amazing as you say, then ill read about you in the news soon.