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I think this is because it's still expensive to put themselves into some related businesses before there's not much need for a human UI IDE. But maybe it is now or never to get some of those products visible. If you don't have a little brand recognition now with some sign of historic existence you are going to be a crab in the AI slop bucket.


A diesel powered generator doesn't generate anything it converts expensive but heavily subsidized fuel into pretty similar value electricity that often requires more subsidies for distribution networks.


>> During my career there


I certainly read that as "there" being the town, not the actual data center!


" I remember we hired a local who'd grown up in the town and he was "really surprised" when he started to see what we were doing to remain efficient"

That makes it very clear he was an employee of Google working at the data center.


Same, but revisiting it with context, it does seem mostly obvious enough.

Written communication is hard


I'm also a bit irrationally annoyed by the example. You seem like someone who could explain why a barcode URI isn't defined as a proper URN?


Because the consumer has to be able to trivially scan it with their smartphone and get useful information out of it. In reality, that means it has to be a valid URL you can visit with a web browser, as forcing literally everyone to install a proprietary URN-handling app is a dealbreaker.

The whole point of it is that you can just say "scan the barcode with your smartphone to find out if your product is part of this recall".


URN that can be copied and put in any national recall website seems better to me. I don't understand who I am supposed to trust to keep domains with the right content on them instead of porn sites. Seems very high faith for clown town.


It would be easy enough for a player to be purely random if that was all it took. I think the tension is that piece rank makes some layouts and move strategies more equal than others and calculating the best ones for what has been uncovered so far makes the best layouts not the best layouts.


There are plenty of messages on this site where the GOS lead assumed the best while Google tightened the rope.. Google was never the right choice for a partner when being able to choose only one hardware vendor. Google made changes to AOSP that are basically infringement of GPL using the usual embargo security theater. GOS making some noise is good for their business since if they don't, even their existing user base will assume they will be squashed like a bug.


I'll be interested to see if downstreams of AOSP ultimately weaponize updates against Google. For the kernel that's a minefield but Google made plenty of stuff Apache/MIT to keep its options open..


As a custom ROM maintainer in that position, it's unlikely to cause a difference since Google has effectively monopolized their Play Integrity API for attestation. Even Graphene itself runs into this roadblock, and why in the current day it's still a minority user group using it or other ROMs


I’ve had some trouble with apps refusing to work because of Play Integrity, but it’s not ubiquitous yet. We can still fight it.


Normie apps simply don't anymore. WhatsApp will refuse to log you in if it feels your device is modified and then fails a verdict. Google Wallet won't let you tap to pay. Most banks in the EU and basically all virtual ID systems require it

That's a big pain point for the average user


Google Wallet is the one I miss the most.

EU banks are hit and miss, but e.g. LHV and Wise both work fine. (Wise might limit some functions if it detects root, but custom ROMs seem to be okay. It also has most of the functions available in the web version anyway.) N26 is flaky (sometimes it just works for me, sometimes refuses to even log in; no idea what’s wrong). Revolut has lost me as a user.

Smart-ID (used in Estonia) has been working fine for me, but they seem to limit biometric signup on custom ROMs. But you can sign up using ID card and a USB reader, so it’s only mildly inconvenient.

Now, of course, YMMV in other countries, but I think my final point still stands: we can fight it.


I do hope we can, I continue to work on custom ROMs after all :)

I just also like to be a realist, and right now things look a bit grim


Both WhatsApp and banking apps (Santander/Openbank) work perfectly for me. You really shouldn't use Google Wallet because of privacy concerns. But if you absolutely want to, there are other equally questionable alternatives, such as PayPal, that work just fine on GrapheneOS.


They work fine for me too personally, but not for everyone. Banks are ofc by institution, but with whatsapp there's some flag that can be put on an account which makes them get an "unofficial app" warning and not log in. Which gets cleared by using a stock device or something passing integrity. Definitely a weird situation, but there's plenty of proof out there that they're doing something strange


There is a guy in Denmark working on a G wallet/ A wallet alternative. He has a discord and the release of tap-to-pay is scheduled for early next year. Very enthusiastic for the app because the guy refused to compromise on app compatibility with GOS, regardless of the 2months delay this introduced.


And you can't tap to pay with PayPal, at least not in my region. Tap to Pay is the big thing


PayPal only supports tap-to-pay in Germany. Curve Pay supports tap-to-pay on GrapheneOS in the UK and the whole European Economic Area. Many European banks have working tap-to-pay too, and the trend of those replacing their independent system with Google Pay has subsided. It's mostly a non-issue in Europe but there aren't similar alternatives for most of the world. Japan does have their own alternative which works on GrapheneOS with Japanese models of Pixels.


Klarna also offers tap to pay in their app, at least in Germany. Not sure whether that's the case in the rest of Europe or elsewhere.


I'm using WhatsApp on my GrapheneOS handset without issues.


I’ve been using WhatsApp on LineageOS with microG and it worked just fine for me too. Even with Magisk (had to do some integrity trickery for another app, which didn’t work out ultimately but eh).


I'm not sure that's the reason a minority user group is using alternative ROMs. They have always been niche, even before the play integrity API took off.


That's quite optimistic. How many months of further development does a deal usually need to have something sizeable that can collapse?


Sure but it is rather paradoxical as healthy lifestyle things are far more available like every other consumer option. There's just the higher probability of choosing the more immediately satisfying new choices and/or of envying those who do.


Do you mean healthy foods as well? They vary from "much more expensive than" normal" food (not necessarily just highly processed/worst), to "impossible to purchase at all" due to living in the place that doesn't offer these options.

On top of that there's time cost - making healthy meals form scratch takes far more time than making them from store-bought "parts" (eg: to get boiled beans I need to soak them, them boil for hours. For this I need time, more time and a lot of energy)

I think you're not taking the average human's reality.


I think you are not aware of the average human's reality before 1980. The food deserts of today affect a small percentage of people. If you want something almost as healthy as the produce but prepared/processed you can buy it today but couldn't in 1980. You would also be spending considerably more of your income on food before 1980 no matter the quality. It's fun to blame scarcity of needed things but this has no reality. There is an abundance of preferred things.


Depends on the country.

In '80s in mine we had mostly only healthy foods. Crap sold as food today was completely unavailable; the most unhealthy would be a birthday cake or additional slice of bacon on a plate.

I think I am aware and I posit it's very hard for people on low I comes to even be able to buy a quality food.


Unprepared food was pretty much the only healthy food in shops before 1980. Poor people were more likely to need two bread winners..

The memes you are repeating do not match actual US or world statistics. They do make everyone feel better all around. I.e. even free enterprise and freedom of choice stories work worse when we are genetically tuned to choose ourselves to death and market tuned to profit from it. (A bag of potatoes is far more available globally than decades ago but a bag of doritos has a far more impressive availability increase.)


What memes?

And you didn't even engage with my main point, it's very hard for people especially on the low income to not just eat but even access healthy foods.


I did engage with your main point. Healthy prepared food did not exist in 1980 at a grocery store, the lowest income was more likely to need dual income and therefore not having more free time than now unlike richer people since 1980.

Here is the actual data that says people were spending 50% more on food despite more prep time and lower health food options:

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/110333

Your point is very socially satisfying but has no accuracy for why the majority of Americans are overweight or why the trend is global. (People buy expensive brand trash food but could in fact afford and find healthier food for less of their income now than in 1980.)


“System prefers lower-energy state” is not paradoxical at all.

It’s just about the most fundamental law in the entire universe, in fact.


I didn't say what people prefer is a paradox. There is more availability and use of health related choices that violate this "law" but much more use of things that satisfy it. It would take a hell of a lot of healthy living to make up for cancer rates in 10% of the population having all the options and a dopamine addiction. Pretty remarkable the cancer rates are as low as they are.


I don't know for kids specifically but average user time: 2012 1:30 2016 2:08 2019-now ~2:30

If child patterns match the average, an average 8th grader from now has accumulated something like 30% more than one in 2018.


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