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> Two things fall straight out of that.

Hi Claude


Here is an idea: instead of PoW do “proof of AI” each user who wants to access the page run AI/LLM prompts to undercut the corpos abusing the pages


What country have you been living in? The UK is most certainly at war with anonymity: one of the highest CCTV countries in the world, key disclosure, OSA, KYC means yes you do need to scan your passport/ID now for any financial institution, Apple stopping full device encryption, the only thing left is ID cards and we will have no anonymity at all.


The Hemel one is more “complicated” but honestly it’s easy, you just do one roundabout at a time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Hemel_Hempst...


Wow that list of commits is brutal. Libre Office is dead. Just another corporate take over of an open source project.


Based on that table it looks like “LibreOffice the name” ejected “LibreOffice the software development project” basically. Although, it isn’t really a corporate takeover, right? There was one company that was doing most of the work, now they’ve been ejected.

So why not just fork it under a new name.


> So why not just fork it under a new name.

Again? Sigh. Isn't that how we got LibreOffice in the first place? (From OpenOffice.)


I don’t think LibreOffice ever really took over the mindspace of OpenOffice anyway. Maybe they can a more distinct split will give it a more independent identity.

Since Collabora already has an online version, maybe they should fork completely and call this offline version something that implies independence. So, I suggest: SolOffice. Haha.


I checked the numbers. OpenOffice reports about 230,000 downloads a week. LibreOffice, in contrast, reports about 1,000,000 downloads a week. Those are both direct downloads from their respective websites, thus not counting Linux distributions, in which the default office suite is LibreOffice. AFAIK, no distribution comes with OpenOffice as its default; it's always LibreOffice.

I also checked Google Trends for the last 3 months, comparing LibreOffice vs OpenOffice. The first is searched on average 4.7 times more than the latter, which tracks with weekly download numbers.

From those numbers, I'd say it's pretty clear the name "LibreOffice" won quite decisively over "OpenOffice". OpenOffice is still used a lot, but nowhere close to LibreOffice, especially when we add Linux distributions counts.


You have to ask yourself how does a dead project yield 230k downloads a week?

OpenOffice is by far the better name and has a potential brand recognition that LibreOffice never will.


> I don’t think LibreOffice ever really took over the mindspace of OpenOffice anyway.

It was really a terrible name if you're going after normie office workers. Nobody outside of open source people knows what "Libre" means or even how to pronounce it.


They already have their version, it's called Collabora Online/Office.


Freeoffice as the next name? Seems like they are exhausting them quickly.


I believe OpenOffice is so dead that the name is available again? That would be kind of hilarious, though probably untenable.


Can you really take over a project anybody can fork? Freedom is just a name change away.


I'm pretty sure most "normies" who are at all aware of what MS Office is, and what, if any, of its alternatives are, still use OpenOffice and think that it is the no-cost office suite. LibreOffice already has problems with brand recognition, last thing we need is another fork.


LibreOffice is a pretty bad name, it is too clearly a spin-off of OpenOffice and never really gained its own identity. Being identifiable as a bad project’s better fork is kind of a weak starting position.


That's pointing the underlying cultural issue. Taking the name for the thing it provided at some point, and consider it as unquestionable proxy to world view expected to be itself eternally static.

Not only our representation of the world is wrong, but world evolves possibly faster than cognitive abilities can keep track of without the minimum effort which is driving out of comfort zone.


That will just create another dead fork that no one works on.


LibreOffice exists because the devs of OpenOffice forked it. If the project leadership now ejects the devs, I think that the new fork will be the living one.


Euro office looking very suspicious here


Euro Office and OnlyOffice drama is not directly related to this office drama.

A different drama



Note that one of the co-authors of the source is "Claude"


This is a semi joke answer but I have worked at some of the big corps and see how they use OSS software. One way I have continuously thought about to prevent usage is to make all of the variables/function names/APIs contain profanity and PR incorrect jokes. I do know that every single corp has a profanity filter to prevent any bad word being added to code. It’s not bullet-proof but certainly makes it a lot more difficult to get that code on corpo servers and past legal.


That’s my issue with it: iot devices shouldn’t have access to the internet by default. With Matter it’s possible. No one is going to create outbound firewall rules for these things.


I think it's only a matter of time before it's the same for Thread + Matter. Currently they get an ULA IPv6 address on (most?) border routers and you can ping the devices on the local network. It will be too attractive extend the standard to permit phoning home for 'analytics to improve the product' (I don't think this is possible yet with the current standard? But hard to tell.).


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