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So basically people with opinions on both extremes feel marginalized and unheard. I guess that's maybe a message to consider a more nuanced position.


I want Silicon Valley to be a place where you can publicly hold extreme views and not be a huge social liability to anyone you associate with (employer, friends).


What does that actually mean? It has to mean that your views are consequence-less, that there is no way they could have an effect on the real world.

Do you really think it should be possible to walk around wearing a "kill all Jews" badge, and not recieve so much as an angry glare from a Jewish person?


What’s an extreme view in your book? Extreme views, by definition, must brush up against the limits of what’s legal or ethical.


The thing is you are free to hold and expose extreme views - and I strongly support your right to do so and not to be subject to persecution from the state for doing so. However I also have the right to not associate with you if I think that you are a dick.


Ugh, so done with this xkcd.

Ignoring people who we don't agree with is how we got to a place where supporting your political party was more important than having an ideology you could morally justify.

I personally lean fairly far to the right but I spend a lot of time listening to NPR, reading slate, and other pretty lefty publications. When I talk to people who only consume one side of the media, whether it's right or left, I feel like I'm talking to a wall of nonsense. People have so little understanding of those they disagree with and will dismiss them with "they're a bunch of idiots" so quickly that their position has no basis in reality. I'm not saying we should give everyone a platform, I'm saying that if someone says "all the rich should be killed" or "gay men don't know love" each position despite being on diametrically opposite sides of our current political landscape need to be understood if we want to move forward.


The OP is talking about extreme views like racism (or in their case hating trans people).

You are talking about listening to Democrat opinions.

Very very different thing.

I am quite happy to be friends with people with different political opinions or who vote for another party.

I am also happy to know who is spouting racist, sexist or crazy drivel. This allows me personally to avoid them.

Others may choose to engage with the extremists I choose not to waste my time. This is a matter for individual free will.

NB once again listening to Democrat/republican media when you are voting for the other party is just normal and has nothing to do with choosing not to associate with e.g Klansman.


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Wow just wow.


Yeah, it can get pretty ugly lookin' in the mirror ;)


Would both of you please stop? Nasty tit-for-tats are always off topic here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


some positions have no nuance though. There's no middle ground to "black people are inferior to white people". There's no difference to split.


Opinions within the overton window are not inherently more nuanced.

There's a line I like about this: "Hegemony means never having to admit you have an agenda."




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