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Does this ever actually come up for all the people complaining about it? Where are these people working that they're not willing to install rsyslog which reads journald logs directly and will write plaintext, but who have this problem enough to warrant all the complaining?

Like, previously to have any logs at all you had to have a syslog daemon. This is not a new situation.



> Like, previously to have any logs at all you had to have a syslog daemon. This is not a new situation.

What's new is that now more and more-difficult-to-debug pieces are required. For what benefit?


This is a "now you have two problems" solution.




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