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US is a democracy with an independent judiciary. China isn't.

Google, Apple etc are public companies. Huawei is state controlled.

So it only makes sense if you completely ignore the basic facts.



> Google, Apple etc are public companies. Huawei is state controlled.

Citation needed - Huawei denies being under state control and there is no evidence of any direct state involvement in their day-to-day decisions. Maybe the Chinese state makes secret demands of them occasionally - but maybe the US state makes secret demands of Google/Apple occasionally.


US companies comply with laws governed by an independent judiciary and monitored by a free press.

China has none of those.


Honestly, China is probably worse, but it's not like the USA is the shining beacon of freedom and democracy. Or is Brett Kavanaugh an honorable man?

We are all sort of guilty, we want our cheap goods (clothes, smartphones) and look away when the news talks about garment factories collapsing in Bangladesh, or when the Chinese phone factory workers commit suicide. I enjoy a high living standard, I don't think the way the West (me included) is living is sustainable and it's built on the blood and suffering of so many around the world (like the news the other day how electronic waste exported from Europe are poisoning Ghanaians), but well, isn't ignorance bliss...


Thanks for this. This is what I tried to address by my original post in this thread.


We've essentially outsourced slavery. As horrible as that realisation is, none of the arguments against it are very strong.




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