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Nor Christians neither Jews are a race


We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19935097 and marked it off-topic.


The Jews actually have a pretty strong family component. In theory they aren't a race but for practical purposes it might as well be a racial stereotype (eg, the classic hook-nose propaganda - clearly a racial stereotype).

Anyway, the point was that the culture is what is important. Jewish culture is clearly somewhat different from Christian culture. If you seep a person in a specific culture that will define how they think in a way that their race does not.


> eg, the classic hook-nose propaganda - clearly a racial stereotype

Please, do not repeat this filth. It is anti-Semitic nonsense that there is are “Jewish racial characteristics”. Jews come in every shape and skin tone. I know a very nice black man who is an African Immigrant and he is Jewish.

There is no Jewish race - Judaism is only a religion.


Converts and outliers are of course are excluded, but for people with a long Jewish ancestry, there are clusterings of genetic markers that uniquely identify them as distinct from non-Jews. There are different groups of Jews too.

Judaism is well accepted as being both a race and a religion. Of course it has fuzzy borders with people who don't believe the religion but are genetically Jewish and vise versa, but so does every race and every religion.

It's not helpful for thought to demonize an idea by calling it "filth". How can you consider possibilities if you've decided in advance what's clean and what's too dirty to even say?


How long is "a long Jewish ancestry"? Hundreds of years? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Africa

Judaism is not 'well accepted' as being a race, and it is quite dismissive for you to assume that other commenters have taken up their positions 'in advance' rather than having spent time on the topic before this conversation that led them to their position.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_secularism

Jewish secularism comprises the non-religious ethnic Jewish people and the body of work produced by them. Among secular Jews, traditional Jewish holidays may be celebrated as historical and nature festivals, while life-cycle events, such as births, marriages, and deaths, may be marked in a secular manner.


Jewish race is a term. Different Jewish tribes/shared genetics is more accurate.


That is incorrect. The Jewish people comprise an ethnoreligious group: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group

In fact, the term "Jewish people" refers principally to an ethnic group with a common cultural heritage and ancestral religion, not to adherents of Judaism. Judaism happens to be the common religion of the Jewish people.




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