Please don't use HN for political or nationalistic battle. When people start importing pre-existing political cases into the threads, with long lists of links and talking points, curiosity has been left far behind. This site exists for curious conversation, not agendas.
I think I've made some points not often made here on HN, as I find most thread on many similar threads since years ago rather superficial. I was hoping they will be educational.
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