This isn't a free speech issue. We have free speech in most parts of our country...

afiori · on Aug 5, 2019

Something relevant here is that I believe that there is a significant amount of illegal speech on 8chan (or also twitter for that matter). Moving the discourse over to better enforcing current laws looks like an underestimated approach.

spaginal · on Aug 6, 2019

Clearly it is not illegal speech.

Regardless of that, is your solution to a decades old problem that pre dated the internet is to ban online forums that don’t tow approved narratives?

I think you will be incredibly disappointed in the results of your solution.

afiori · on Aug 6, 2019

There is illegal speech on many platforms. Twitter is used for doxing for example.

I do not like companies being the arbiters of good, but in this case (as far as CF is concerned [1]) I believe they did no wrong.

They clearly state that they should not be in the business of policing legal content they host, but also work hard to make sure they are not hosting illegal content. This way is better than a twitter-like approach where you only pay attention to high profile situations.

(In many senses twitter is doing a good job, but in other senses they (and their employees) have a strong political bias that bubbles up to how they enforce policies)

[1] https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8cha...

spaginal · on Aug 6, 2019

Chicken and egg. Do these forums create the behavior or just create the outlet?

I think we have a fundamental issue with men and how they are treated from a young age in our society, and it has nothing to do with the chans.

You can look at the symptoms or look at the underlying pathology that creates the symptoms.