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In Japan, sober passengers get penalised if a driver is over the alcohol limit.

The limit is not high (BrAC 0.15 mg/L -equivalent to 0.03%) to start with. The good thing about this policy (as a disincentive to drunk-driving) is it is designed to socialise responsibility and blame: while a passenger can reasonably claim not to know how drunk the driver was, it makes no difference to the fine.

One could extend this idea to speed limits, perhaps. Or maybe: multiply the driver's fine relative to the number of passengers aboard, so as to diminish the guy-showing-off-to-his-mates/ girlfriend effect. If you're risking lives other than your own, pay more.



And multiply by a wealth coefficient like they do in Finland. Because if a fine is the equivalent $0.00000450 then it’s not much of a motivation.


How is wealth calculated? It's kind of hard in many countries including USA, since there is no wealth tax.


Dead simple. Bluebook or insured value of the vehicle being driven. Speed in a semi-truck, or lambo, expect to pay more than the guy delivering pizzas in a civic.


...So the rich people all buy cheap cars instead and keep their lambos at home. How does this solve the problem?


It’s a very good question which I presume has been solved in many places. Shares in public companies, stocks, property values etc.

If someone working two $8/h jobs to pay for rent and food has to pay $450 that has serious repercussions. If someone who owns a rental property for example is to experience an incentive of a similar size, then the incentive ought to be proportional maybe to 2-3% of the value of the property?

If we’re OK with poor people’s lives being ruined by a speeding ticket then maybe we could be OK with a millionaire having to sell some shares or even property to cover a similar offense.

And, the police would get their funding quotas faster ;)

Of course legislation like this is unlikely to cross the Gilens/Page threshold.

here’s a summary of their Princeton study finding that US “democracy” works only when serving the oligarchy:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say...


This seems to work well for social drinking situations but if slam a couple of whiskeys and then come pick you up one morning you're committing a crime and have no reasonable way to know about it.


You have a choice when getting into a car with a drunk driver.

You don’t have a choice to not let a driver speed up when you are already in a car.


I think the idea here is that a drunk driver might not mind risking a fine for himself, but thinks twice about risking a fine for his passenger too.




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