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You have to add $75 a year to the operating cost of these phones, for AirPods, which appear to have a design life of about 18 months, max.

I am very frustrated as the SE is really getting to end of life. I have bought 3 of them in the past month from various eBay sellers with good feedback. One fake, one had a badly degraded battery, and the other went into a reset loop after a couple weeks. There's not much out there. Apple's privacy is second to none, usability is very good (though if they introduce one more type of swiping I'm going to go mad. What's next, Force Swiping?), but the hardware is getting extremely inconvenient. Even my buddy who has large hands complains that the phone is too big and heavy.



Can't you use... any other Bluetooth headphones with it? I feel like saying you have to use AirPods is a bit disingenuous.


Yes. You can use $20 Amazon bluetooth headphones. And you can use a $9 adapter that fits in any wallet or purse easily:

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35...

And they come with free lightning headphones in the box.


When I got an iPhone 8, it came with that adapter in the box. I do keep a spare we had lying around in my cross-body bag too, for times like using someone's aux cord in a car.

Yes, it's another thing you can lose, but in practice I don't think it's really a problem -- certainly not the issue that would decide a phone for me, since rarely are all other specs equal.


Or the headphone adaptor, or the lightning earpods that are included with most iPhones nowadays.


There are many bluetooth headphone choices, plus an adapter for plugging in headphones. I'm just as sour about the death of the headphone jack, but I think it's hyperbole to say that $75/yr for airpods is required.


What? They come with a pair of wired headphones. Why do you need Airpods?


Some bluetooth headphones have outstanding battery life. Beats Solo 3 for example. Personally I have no reason to go back to wired headphones, just switching them between devices with a click of a button is so convenient.


There’s a $9 lightning to headphone adaptor and a lightning headset are included in the box.


No there isn't, they stopped shipping those with them a while back.


I didn't say it was shipped in the box, it's available on the store: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35...




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