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[flagged] Dogecoin Has an Inflationary Supply, Making It Ideal as a Cryptocurrency (investorplace.com)
23 points by ryan_j_naughton on May 6, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 24 comments


The problem is that it's still an open-loop system. Central banks for currencies that are well-accepted internationally manage the money supply to avoid excessive deflation or inflation, and the money supply has to grow with the size of the economy. If Dogecoin is slightly inflationary that might be an improvement, but there's still no feedback.


What's fascinating about crypto, whether you are a fan of any particular coin or not, is that we get to rapidly iterate and experiment on everything from Keynesian to Austrian to MMT to Monetarism economics to varying degrees in real-time. We can afford to try all the experiments simultaneously to see which ones succeed over the long haul.


Is this another pump and dump following DOGE jump last days ?


Ask Elon after Saturday Night Live this weekend.


It's inflationary (5 billion more a year), but inflation rate drops overtime, reaching 0% on a long enough time line...

Compared to USD inflation rate, this is much lower volatility, and makes it rather attractive. A good complement to store-of-value Bitcoin: has the ability to act more like a currency.

Also, error in the article: Bitcoin supply is estimated to run out in 2140, NOT 2040.

Source: https://provscons.com/is-dogecoin-capped/


In the end, what will happen if a crypto is ever accepted and non-deflationnary, is that actor with enough credit/trust (banks, states) will start according loans, creating more money that the initial creator wanted, creating inflation.


Ideal for the few folks who hold more than 60% of it. https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-dogecoin-addresses...


And are waiting for $1 and above for a gigantic sell off. Making the late comers hodling the bag when the DOGE price goes through the floor.


>And are waiting for $1 and above for a gigantic sell off

That's not really how those things work. If someone like say, Satoshi, or Vitalik or another "whale" tried to massively sell their coins, the slippage would quickly deprecate the price. Sure, the first .1% they'd be able to sell at $1, but most likely they would make the price crash.


It is now. (The DOGE clones that is)

While DOGE is not directly affected (which is still down), the clones suffered a rapid price drop due to Vitalik taking >$1B worth of dogecoin inspired clone coins; causing the prices to crash. [0] Even before dogecoin reached $1, much worse than expected.

Again its not good news for the late dogecoin (and the clones) baghodlers. Oh dear.

[0] https://www.coindesk.com/vitaliks-regift-of-unsolicited-doge...


This argument actually makes a lot of sense. You need an inflationary supply, otherwise why spend it? This will end up being a problem for Bitcoin.


Well, I'm guzzling Nano like cranberry juice. Here we have a currency written in C++ that inspired another group of developers to port it to Rust. That's got to be worth something. Also one of just two currencies that use BLAKE. The other is Siacoin — which I'm also monitoring, but from my experiences in the community, I feel Nano is going to massively prevail.


I wrote about uncapped vs capped supply in

https://john-tromp.medium.com/a-case-for-using-soft-total-su...

Btw, there are many cryptocurrencies with tail emission, and resulting disinflationary supply.


that's not sufficient to make something an ideal currency


Banks want a coin with a central bank and fractional reserve. US banks want all that plus a value pegged to the dollar.

Fractional reserve banking allows banks to create money from nothing. Banks don't like their money making power taken away.


Ironically, crypto currency is nothing but private money creation. Including Tether, which allows private creation of dollars!


We already had private money creation; every time a bank makes a loan, money is created. Governments don't directly control the money supply, they only do so indirectly.


Also known as fractional reserve banking (the money can make loan more money than it has in its reserve).

If someone tries to do a bank run the fed will supply the bank with missing money, in part, because the fed was created by private banks to counter bank runs.


Banks loan from their availabile capital no? They don’t just make up money for loans.


"And it is for this reason that although banks don’t need your money, they do want your money. As noted above, banks lend first and look for reserves later, but they do look for the reserves."

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/022416/why-b...


No, banks are allowed to loan more money than they have in reserves (they are allowed to have a fraction of a loan in their reserves = fractional reserve banking).

As a result, money is created through each loan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier


Client A = 100 dollars client B = 0 dollars Bank passive = 100 dollars bank actives = 100 client b makes a loan of 70 dollars client A = 100 dollars client B = 70 dollars Bank passives = 170 bank actives = 170 Now client C needs a 100 dollars loan. 100 < 170.

Bank actives 270 bank passives 270 …


In the simple savings-and-loan case, banks loan from their deposits. So technically it is the bank's available capital, but the capital belongs to someone else. If the bank has $1 million in deposits, it might decide it can safely loan out $100k, which in some sense increases the money supply.


No. Or maybe in really rare cases. One man savings are really another man debt. In reality, actors that can roll their debt do so (so states and companies with enough capital as collateral), allowing common men to have savings.




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