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> NOTE: this is a USA-centric viewpoint

Those are USA-centric examples.

I'm sure the viewpoint is just as valid across five eyes and even worse in places like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, China et al.

I'm from Australia, allegedly a 1st world democracy - and secret wiretaps, secret evidence (and even secret trials!), overseas torture facilities, imprisonment without charges - are all public policy, covered my the media, and enshrined in laws passes by both of the two-party political system.



>Australia

Don't forget raiding journalists homes and public broadcasters (using illegal warrants!) for reporting on proposed secret spying and hacking laws.

Nice "democracy".


I watched "Secret City" and was aghast at the secret trials, evidence, etc. Is all that really happening today in Australia?


"Covered by the media" is a stretch: Murdoch has been hard at work ignoring all of it.




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