Well, for one thing, "adds value" on HN is a pretty loaded term that comes down to "making money for someone else". You're basically saying that when you can't pull any harder, you'll line up behind Boxer at the glue factory so the pigs get one last cent out of your hide.

But lets assume a more charitable definition of 'adds value', then when does that end? I'd argue 'never', but I've also lost a parent and an in-law this year, so maybe that's still a little close for me.