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These are again examples without context.

e.g. on Hobson's book.

This was a book that was widely referenced. Certainly referencing it didn't mean endorsement of Hobson's antisemitism ( a few lines in that book).. like praising the works of many other authors of the time that contain antisemetic references.

Here's the then leader of the Liberal Democrats Nick Clegg citing Hobson.

http://www.demos.co.uk/files/Liberal_moment_-_EMBARGOED_18.0...

Or Blair:

"J.A Hobson was probably the most famour Liberal convert to what was the literally 'new Labour'"

or Gordon Brown

"In Britain, this idea of liberty as empowerment is not a new idea, J A Hobson asked, “is a man free who has not equal opportunity with his fellows of such access to all material and moral means of personal development and work as shall contribute to his own welfare and that of his society?”"

Is the same for all other cases.

This is how smearing works. People take something that happened (that cannot be denied) and then insist this is proof. If the person says nothing they seem guilty, if the person tries to explain and put things into context they seem guilty.



People who write an encouraging and approving forward to a book are endorsing what the book says, duh.

That's very different from a general reference to a phrase that a person said (Brown) or mentioning a person as part of an historic development (Clegg) - the difference between say, an historian mentioning Goebbels, compared to writing an approving forward to a new edition that a book that Goebbels wrote.

Corbyn has a long long history of happening to not notice antisemitism by people he has been encouraging.

>People take something that happened (that cannot be denied) and then insist this is proof.

How dare we look into mere evidence?! Apparently the important thing to some is that the guy is left-wing and that covers for everything.


Ok, how about the others?


well that's exactly the trap isn't it? The others have clearly been contextualised and explained many many times, but that's never enough and there's always 'but what about this one..'

Throw enough stuff at the wall and hope something will stick.

And if I put up a list of the times where Corbyn has gone above and beyond to support Jewish communities in the UK, people will undoubtedly put the effort in to dismiss them.


No, you are doing exactly what you are claiming was done, explaining away one thing (which still btw doesn’t work, Blair and brown are both labour too), and saying the others don’t matter because you’ve proved one wrong.

Yet somehow it’s always Corbyn labour that gets “misquoted”. Why is that? The Labour Party has plenty of motivation to smear the conservatives over antisemitism, yet somehow they don’t have the material for it. Why is that?

But whatever, I won’t convince you anyway, you refuse to look at the evidence. The mural one is the best example but you claim it’s a smear too. Yet somehow again it’s corbyn who got messed up in it.

But fine, I understand why the left is antisemitic, just like the Soviet Union was, it would just be nice if you were honest about it. If you blame identity groups for the worlds problems it’s hard to not blame Jews, and it must really frustrating seeing a successful nationalistic nation be successful against all odds.


Did you just call "the left" "antisemitic" and then immediately complained about people who "blame identity groups for the world's problems" in two consecutive statements?


Yes I did. Who does the american left blame right now for the world's problems? Individuals evaluated by what they do, or a certain group of people?


"plenty of motivation to smear the conservatives over antisemitism" "yet somehow they don’t have the material for it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Conserv...

And On the Tory Prime minister

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/11/boris-johns...

On the mural. Yes I agree that is the clearest example. The mural is clearly antisemetic. Corbyn claims he wasn't paying attention and made the comment about censorship without opening the image. He has since agreed the mural was antisemetic and that he made a mistake.

That's basically the only scandal that has stood up though, that he said he wasn't paying attention when surfing on Facebook 10 years ago, and people who believe the other scandals insist he was paying attention and was deliberately endorsing a piece of antisemetic art.

And on the 'left' blaming Jews for everything. You are wrong obviously. but also worth noting many of the heros of the left : Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg, Jesus Christ. Are Jews.




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