The fact that after all these years that page only lists AdWords, is not encoura...

timsneath · on July 15, 2022

We really should update that page: looking at git blame, it hasn't been touched for several years :( I'll file an issue.

Dart is used in almost every product group at Google.

- The Ads team continues to grow, with hundreds of SWEs primarily writing Dart code.

- The Google Play Console that lets app publishers market Android apps: all Dart (https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/06/introducin...)

- The Google Nest Hub and Hub Max devices: both the UI and a lot of back-end code are written in Dart

- Google Pay: Dart (and Flutter)

- Family Link, Google One, Stadia, Cloud Search: Flutter and Dart

Several other really big apps are being rewritten right now in Flutter. In all, there are thousands of SWEs writing millions of lines of code in Dart at Google.

And outside of Google, of course, there is the likes of BMW (https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T032861...), Sonos (https://tech-blog.sonos.com/posts/renovating-setup-with-flut...) and over 500,000 other Flutter apps that are all Dart-based.

Redmonk, the developer analyst firm, is pretty bullish on Dart: https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2022/05/16/flutter-propels-dar...

labrador · on July 13, 2022

It must sometimes be demoralizing for a respected member of the programming community (Bob Nystrom - munificent) who worked on Dart at Google, most recently adding null safety, for people to constantly sh*t on Dart on Hacker News, especially since it's a really nice language that is going unappreciated

gompertz · on July 24, 2022

HN shits on Dart and V extensively... And they are the only two languages I use daily. So even as a user it can be demoralizing!

ihateolives · on July 14, 2022

I'm not shitting on Dart if that's what you mean, quite the opposite, I'm just sad that Dart is not getting same amount of push from Google as Go. I'm afraid that one day Dart may end up in already impressive Google Graveyard[0]. I very much prefer Dart to Go but I'm in the minority.

[0] https://killedbygoogle.com/

labrador · on July 14, 2022

Sorry, I wasn't referring to you. When Dart came out in 2012 it was a big improvement on JavaScript, but some Google exec said the goal was to replace JavaScript, which was incorrect, so that community has been down on Dart ever since. It's kind of remarkable to me how sticky this Dart hate is even 10 years later. It's unreasonable, and like you, it makes me sad because working with the DOM in Dart is even nicer than jQuery to me.