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That's easy. Are they calling for illegal actions against people?

That's a pretty easy litmus test.

As a colloary, it's akin to comparing "I don't like the president" vs "Let's go kill the president" (this is a comparison of allowed vs unallowed speech in the USA, not a call to).

Advocating voting against is 100% legal. Advocation of killing is 100% ILLEGAL.

Kiwifarms was doing the latter, up to and including actions threatening violence, "assisted" suicide, and murder.

Those were never 1fa protected actions.



> That's a pretty easy litmus test.

Then a proceeding in open court will be simple and fast.

A proceeding where the accused has the right to cross examine and present evidence in their defense.

I prefer that to a corporate decision done in secrecy in response to bad PR.


Same, there’s no contradiction here. The same political group that is pressuring the companies that currently hold the real power to take down this hate is also pushing for a national hate speech law.

Where I’m sure the disagreement lies is whether or not you find it morally okay to protect the current victims by less than ideal means.




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