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i would have serious concerns about hosting in europe due to hate speech laws that are muddy and ripe for abuse. the site doesn't have a hate speech policy i can find, is anyone here informed on exactly what the ramifications of such laws might be?


I'm not clear (as a European) which part of your code-hosting could be risky in this regard?

There's many privacy and other laws that affect myself and my neighbours in Europe that concern me, but hate speech has never been one of them.

Perhaps wherever you're from you draw lines differently to how we do it in Europe, with regards to what is socially and morally acceptable to say?

I should add that we also don't have a right to "free speech" in the UK as, say, Americans do, and yet it hasn't forced us to keep our mouths shut.


>Perhaps wherever you're from you draw lines differently to how we do it in Europe, with regards to what is socially and morally acceptable to say?

Maybe that's why he has serious concerns? Funny how it's always valid for Europeans to have concerns about America and its differences, but when it's the other way around it's a barrage of "How dare you?!" (just look at the responses to OPs concerns).


No, it's more that we Europeans scratch our head as to what he wants. The comment reads like a troll post. Why would code be nuked for hate speech?

/e: lel, he has been warned by dang already for other comments: "Would you please stop the unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments?". So we don't need to bother.


There is no patriot act in Europe, so court of law etc is a thing.


Well if you are not worshipping Nazis or trying to push hate against minorities you shouldn't run into problems. But I'm quite sure most other services in the states wouldn't tolerate such things too


Google "Is ___ racist?" (inserting almost any term: gardening, math, science, climate change, doesnt matter) and you will always find academic and mainstream opinion-piece proof that it's racist against "minorities".

The lines are much blurrier than you are brushing off, especially now that we have post-structuralist definitions of everything. Do you trust the interpretation to be limited to obvious extreme things when people can't agree what terms like woman, inflation, recession, etc mean?

Or, think about what happens when a political party you don't like can use the same legal framework you built with good intentions in ways you probably won't like.


i have serious concerns about hosting in the US because US companies often remove content or lock out or terminate their users/customers for unpredictable reasons. in europe at least i can read up on what the law is, and expect that as long as my content is lawful, it will not be taken down.


Another comment mentioned that they took down wikiless without warning or explaination, and then the explaination that eventually came later was still not great (complaint from wikimedia). It doesn't sound like they are so much better on this point.


right, things are not perfect, and people make mistakes, but that doesn't contradict my claim because it should still be possible to object to the takedown and take measures to get the host to reinstate the content if the IP claim was wrong. in the US, in the same situation there might not be a recourse.


I'm intrigued about the kind of code that you're writing that would be at risk of being considered hate speech


Do you have any example of this?


You would have serious concerns about that, wouldnt you? Well, though luck I guess.




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