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> I don't know. You could have also let someone else do your homework for you. Does that also count as "using tools that you have access to"?

Keep in mind that the reverse is also true: If he did try to do it all manually & without the tracing method, is his use of already-available graphite "using tools that you have access to"? Should he be made to go to a mine & dig out coal for graphite in order for it to count as his work?



> Should he be made to go to a mine & dig out coal for graphite in order for it to count as his work?

That argument doesn't make any sense. There are restrictions for any homework, some explictly given by their professor (such as the deadline), and some implicitly known from general academic guidelines and common sense (such as "not using a photocopier in an art class"). Obviously mining coal is not among those restrictions.


> That argument doesn't make any sense. There are restrictions for any homework, some explictly given by their professor (such as the deadline), and some implicitly known from general academic guidelines and common sense (such as "not using a photocopier in an art class"). Obviously mining coal is not among those restrictions.

...is it?

"general academic guidelines and common sense" is a subjective term that is (context, culture, & environment) dependent: If the social norm was "Your work isn't valuable unless you made the materials yourself", then the use of non-self-made materials (graphite not mined by yourself) is frowned upon.

Relying on "general academic guidelines and common sense" is not a good thing, as it helps to reinforce unequal social norms & anti-non-heteronormative ideologies, as a downstream consequence of majority rule by statistically normal people. Neurodivergent individuals that have significant difficulties grasping "common sense" will & already have been negatively impacted under such a system, where they're told to just "get it" with no guidelines whatsoever.


I wouldn't call myself neurodivergent, yet I don't support relying on common sense either. That being said, you can't make me believe that a student (neurodivergent or otherwise) would assume that they are expected to mine coal as part of their homework.

If a neurodivergent person uses a photocopier because they thought that it would be fine, then yeah, I'd understand that. The person who started this thread stated that they were perfectly aware that they were cheating, though.




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