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I did not said that are the same, the llama has a lot of information in it , the issue seems to be the Q&A chat part. This can be added on top by the community without having to start from scratch IMO. But I might be wrong, and OpenAI put some magic shit in , some super secret unpublished stuff, in that case educate me. In my mind I compare with Stable Diffusion, the proprietary ones produce more artistic effects because they put some more stuff into the prompts and they are imposing their styles. With SD you have the control and you need to wait for some improvements, plugins, new loras or embedings with new styles etc. In SD I could train my face in 1- minutes, with proprietary shit it will never happen...

Imagine what a math community could train, they just need access to the model and soem GUI software that can help them train.

So llama based Chat stuff is not yet comparable with ChatGPT but there are already lot of progress made. At this moment coding and math is bad in llama based but other stuff is great, like story creation, also I only could test 3-b 4bit and it is good enough to for example provide me a complex response in valid JSON format.



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