Exactly. TSMC can spend tens of billions of dollars on new processes because the...

MichaelZuo · on May 15, 2023

> Apple customers’ appetite for compute is practically bottomless.

I don't think so, the typical iPhone user has not scaled up their compute needs much past the 2015 A9.

And if you exclude the computational photography stuff, I could imagine some users don't take advantage of it at all.

darkr · on May 15, 2023

Performance per watt is the new Moore's law - though most users don't need more power, they do appreciate longer battery lives

msh · on May 15, 2023

I think that the games on my iphone would disagree.

MichaelZuo · on May 15, 2023

Genshin Impact runs on the A9, I don't think there exist any more computationally demanding games on mobile.

What games are you referring to?

msh · on May 15, 2023

I enjoy xcom 2 and civilization for example.

MichaelZuo · on May 15, 2023

Those run on the A9?

msh · on May 15, 2023

No. Both of them need A10 or newer and recommends minimum a11.

Genshin also needs a A10 as minimum.

MichaelZuo · on May 15, 2023

It does run on the A9: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/j0jzxk/the_...

With low quality graphics admittedly, where you'd get this information?

pier25 · on May 15, 2023

What percentage of iOS users are really hardcore gamers? I don't know, but I doubt it's even close to 25%.

It's anecdotal but I don't know of any iOS/iPadOS user that plays anything remotely demanding. Most users I know don't game. Those that do usually play casual games like Candy Crush.

ytch · on May 15, 2023

It's just my (unprofessional) assumption, but besides CPU and GPU, maybe NPU (AI) still have room for improvement.

reisse · on May 15, 2023

Not for compute, but for performance per watt. Raw compute is much better served by Intel/AMD + Nvidia workstation.