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To say the nation (the many varied people of the US) is at ease with torture is propaganda. In my opinion, certain elements of the state (the government of the US) are at ease with torture and it should be focused on those responsible. Words matter especially right now when Ruzzia is propagandizing everything to find allies for their illegal war.


We had this debate post 9/11 with "enhanced interrogation techniques". No one cared.

Even when you called it "torture" the majority were perfectly fine with it after 9/11 in polling data.


>Words matter especially right now when Ruzzia is propagandizing everything to find allies for their illegal war.

This is actually a good argument, and one of the reasons I've been abstaining from criticising western countries lately. But now the world consensus on Russian invasion has been reached, support for Ukraine is working full speed, so I think I can return to my regularly scheduled programme.


Damn those unelected governments!

Oh, wait...

Prison reform is not wanted by the voting majority (unless it's towards harsher punishments and worse conditions). This is on the voters all the way.




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