A 'tribal' approach is not my intention, it was a reaction to the clear tribalism in your initial post. Your point on obgyns is well taken and in that specific instance you can point to a pretty clear cause and effect- Local laws are hostile to certain segment of healthcare workers so they don't want to stay- fair enough. But thats just one small segment of healthcare workers, and the financial issues in the article we are discussing don't seem to be related to that specific point. More broadly, what I take issue with is this attitude of "If you don't support universal healthcare you don't deserve healthcare' that seems so pervasive. It's an extremely complex issue and there are many rational reasons to oppose universal healthcare. Some like myself do not have a moral or philosophical issue with the policy, but instead are concerned that the current system is a tangled web of cronyism and cartels, and socializing a system like that will only exacerbate healthcare costs as a whole since the bad actors will only become more entrenched. Does that position make me unworthy of having a functioning hospital in my area?