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This looks good! It has not reached my distribution yet, I hope this refreshed UI will be more convenient than the current one (which has done its job for the past 20 years but has some quirks like not having a straightforward way to follow a mail thread to my knowledge - well, it has but all the mails need to be in the same folder but sent mails are in the sent folder and received mails are in the received messages folder)


Just jumping in to say I'm also incredibly happy to see this change (and the other expected improvements).

Thunderbird currently looks dated, and I'm glad to see it brought into the 2020s.

Sometimes current users can be dismissive of UI changes, so it's good to see fellow users who are happy. Moreover, let's not forget the new users, who were previously put off by the dated UI.


I guess I'll be that dismissive current user. I don't like random UI changes in a tool I use as frequently as a mail client. The new icons don't look too bad, even if I dislike their flat nature.

I don't think TB looks dated. It looks functional. Which is exactly what I want from a mail client. If I want something that looks modern but is dysfunctional, I'll just switch to Outlook.


I obviously don't begrudge the fact Thunderbird currently works for you. But there are a few issues with the current UI:

* Dark mode didn't exist for a long time, and I'm glad it does, but messages are still displayed brightly.

* The list of emails always has a columns and a header; there's no simplified vertical view.

* There's a threading view, but IIRC it doesn't combine sent and received messages into the same thread view.


just gave it a test, the design additions are introduced gently. Defaults for listings are on the familiar view. Menu quick actions exist to go from compact to normal to more padding.

I had the 2-line message header view on my wishlist for a long time. Thunderbird did pretty great.


>it doesn't combine sent and received messages into the same thread view.

As I posted above, there is a setting for saving sent emails in the inbox along with received messages, so that threads are complete.


Thanks, if I'm honest I had skimmed over that setting before, not understanding its purpose. (It also looks like they're now introducing a unified inbox, which is what I wanted.)


I had no idea that's what that setting would do. Not having my replies in threads has always been a huge annoyance.


> I don't think TB looks dated. It looks functional. Which is exactly what I want from a mail client.

This.

For better or worse, I've rather come to view "modern" flashy UI aesthetics as being indicative of poorly performing software. It's not fair, I recognize, but in my personal experience, it's a reasonable heuristic.


> all the mails need to be in the same folder but sent mails are in the sent folder and received mails are in the received messages folder)

There is a simple setting somewhere that allows you to have all sent emails be saved in the Inbox. Right now I'm not where I can look up the exact setting for this, but I'm sure you can find it without looking too long. I've been using it this way forever, all my threads are complete and easy to follow.




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