I'm not standing by comments that go against the safety culture of aviation
No, nobody should be "frothing at the mouth", that's an ignorant and unhelpful behaviour. Air travel didn't get safer by doing that
> A plane that loses a big chunk is indeed “fucked”
It landed fine and it is in principle repairable. No, it is not fucked
> There should have been many many redundant safety systems and procedures here with either didn’t exist or failed
Again someone who doesn't know nothing about the subject and thinks that experts haven't thought about their first conclusion after 5 seconds of thinking.
> this was a 10 out of 10 failure
5 out of 10 wrong on that comment. The seal failed and everything else worked. The masks, the procedures, the emergency landing.
But yes, either the installation of that door seal was faulty or there is a systemic issue with that seal (not sure how many customers are flying with it as opposed to just having the door there) - or a combination of factors with something else in between.
> Although a door is available for that row in the plane's design Alaska chose not to exercise that option, having the doors deactivated by Boeing before delivery.
> It therefore appears from the inside of the cabin like a regular window seat, although from the outside the frame of the deactivated door remains visible
Aerospace was my field before tech was. Reliability is still my field.
A door got sucked out of a plane in flight. That is not a matter of unavoidable human error but can only be the consequence of a concert of cascading failures of the type that should never happen which is why it’s a 10/10, if the flight had been full at least one passenger would have likely been sucked out. It is dumb luck that this did not happen.
Your attitude of derating a disaster like this is a strong indicator of the type of problem in the industry. In the end if we don’t get executives resigning and major operating overhauls with the responsible entities, it will be a terrible miscarriage of justice.
From the sound bites in these videos it seems sitting on the seat next to that empty seat was a child. I am thinking how each we fly my son always asks to sit next to the window.this accident was so close to having a fatality…
No, nobody should be "frothing at the mouth", that's an ignorant and unhelpful behaviour. Air travel didn't get safer by doing that
> A plane that loses a big chunk is indeed “fucked”
It landed fine and it is in principle repairable. No, it is not fucked
> There should have been many many redundant safety systems and procedures here with either didn’t exist or failed
Again someone who doesn't know nothing about the subject and thinks that experts haven't thought about their first conclusion after 5 seconds of thinking.
> this was a 10 out of 10 failure
5 out of 10 wrong on that comment. The seal failed and everything else worked. The masks, the procedures, the emergency landing.
But yes, either the installation of that door seal was faulty or there is a systemic issue with that seal (not sure how many customers are flying with it as opposed to just having the door there) - or a combination of factors with something else in between.
> Although a door is available for that row in the plane's design Alaska chose not to exercise that option, having the doors deactivated by Boeing before delivery.
> It therefore appears from the inside of the cabin like a regular window seat, although from the outside the frame of the deactivated door remains visible