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Did you know that Israel tried to give Gaza back to Egypt and West Bank back to Jordan? They refused. Palestinians are endless trouble. This is known throughout the Arab world. It's hardly an "occupation". Israel doesn't want it.


> Did you know that Israel tried to give Gaza back to Egypt and West Bank back to Jordan?

This is revisionist history - Gaza was never even part of Egypt! [0] Netanyahu's plans for "Greater Israel" (which includes the West Bank and Gaza) also run contrary to this claim.

> Israel doesn't want it

Israel's actions say otherwise. And let's not forget that Israel continues to illegally occupy land in Lebanon and Syria - they absolutetly want more land, and Gaza would be perfect for a port, some nice beachfront properties etc.

Also, why have they built a road bisecting Gaza? Why are many Israelis discussing the occupation of northern Gaza like it's a done deal? Why are Israelis holding meetings to plan building settlements in Gaza, attended by gov ministers? Why has Israel given out deals to oil companies for fields off the north coast of Gaza?

[0] https://politics.stackexchange.com/a/81796


> This is revisionist history - Gaza was never even part of Egypt

So confident and yet so wrong. This is literally history. Are you pro-Hamas because you don't know the history of the region, or do you not know the history region because you're motivated to ignore it where it contradicts your pro-Hamas narrative?

From whom did Israel seize control of Gaza in 1967?


I appreciate your more substantive contributions to the thread, but you've also broken the site guidelines a lot, such as with snark and personal attacks. Can you please edit that sort of thing out of your HN posts in the future? I know it's not easy in the heat of the moment, but it's critical to the survival of this site, and it will also make your own posts a lot more persuasive.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: we've had to ask you about this before, and not only about this topic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38583206 (Dec 2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37648667 (Sept 2023)

Eventually we have no choice but to ban accounts that keep breaking HN's rules like this and ignore our requests to stop. I don't want to ban you, so if you would please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, that would be good. You broke a great many of them here, including:

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."


When you say "a lot" in this thread I honestly don't know what you mean. "So confident and yet so wrong" was admittedly prickly, but my follow up question was earnest, not a personal attack. Direct, but not snarky.

I cannot find other examples of snark or personal attacks in this thread.


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I appreciate your more substantive contributions to the thread, but you've also broken the site guidelines a lot, such as by accusing others of not commenting in good faith. Can you please edit that sort of thing out of your HN posts in the future? I know it's not easy in the heat of the moment, but it's critical to the survival of this site, and it will also make your own posts a lot more persuasive.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


So confused. From whom did Israel seize control of Gaza in 1967? From the Palestinian Authority or what?

Edit: So, for those of you inclined to believe that "both sides probably have a point" but are otherwise not clear. No. This is the best you will ever get from the "pro Palestinian" side. It is not a side that is pro Palestinian people. Pro Palestinian people would like the war to end and Palestinians to live peacefully in their own state. A 2-state solution. No, "pro Palestinians" don't care about history or the truth. They are only anti Jew. When you try to bring up evidence or facts, they will reject anything that comes from Israel and accept anything from anti-Israel sources.




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