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100k/yr is not reasonable for Bay Area, let alone top talent. There are people working on it making $1M/yr+. Junior developers straight out of college are making more at Meta. You're also assuming everything went to just engineering payroll, which is obviously not true.


The numbers aren't all that much more palatable at 24,000 man-years, assuming $1M average TC.

That's equivalent to the amount of labor it took to build some of the minor Egyptian pyramids.


Then FB/Meta's throwing money out the door on people who demonstrably do not deserve $1M+/yr.

And on that topic, same with Wikipedia, why "must" you have your development base in the most expensive place on the West Coast?

Per https://www.gamedevmap.com/ there are Many other, less expensive, locations. America has a bunch, even Africa has gamedevs. They're an International megacorp, with 3 billion monthly active user (probably still a lot of dupes). India has the largest FB audience (366 million, 2024), not America (100 million). Will an Indian developer make you a launch app for less than $1M+/yr? New Dehli has 17 game studios (including Riot Games) and Mumbai has 33 (Ubisoft Mumbai and Pune).


How is it demonstrable that they aren't worth $1m per year?

While in many cases folks are overpaid in big tech, some of them are insanely talented people who can do things others simply cannot.


> How is it demonstrable that they aren't worth $1m per year?

Probably because of this:

> How does any company burn $36 billion on a headset they got handed a prototype for?


That's confusing the decision to work on something with the quality of the folks working on it. Brilliant engineers often work on things which are risky from a market perspective. It doesn't make them less brilliant at engineering when it turns out there isn't a market for the thing.

John Carmack appears to be brilliant. I'd guess he would admit the VR market didn't turn out as hoped.


> he would admit the VR market didn't turn out as hoped

That's not what he said though. What he said is that Meta is basically incompetent.


And from a leadership perspective it might well be / might have been. I don't think he ever criticized the quality of engineers there.




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