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There was an incredible post on HN a couple years ago about a guy who would test experimental sweeteners and one of them left his mouth tasting sweet for several months. I tried to find it in the past but never could.


Was it his mouth or his kitchen? I remember a post about someone who ordered a sweetener from some Chinese industrial supplier and accidentally spilled/destroyed the packaging in his kitchen, making everything cooked there taste sweet for a long time.


It sounded like sucralose(although it turned out to be neotame).

Sucralose is very potent, one knife tip sweetens 4l of water and the powder is very fine and tends to linger around. It's also very cheap.


Possibly - The one I recall just had a hobby of trying out experimental sweeteners.


cleaning?



Thank you, I think that was it! How did you find it? Googling or searching HN?


At an old job I was responsible for blending custom alcoholic drinks before we sent it to bottling. One required stevia which when you opened the bag it came in would float into the air everywhere (it’s a super fine powder) and being young and stupid we didn’t wear any masks or anything. For the next couple days you’d have a constant taste of it in your mouth / nose that reminded me of sweetarts candy.


That's can't be good for your lungs.


Was it possibly Neotame?


Probably. Apparently neotame is 5000~ times sweeter than sucrose. Another artificial sweetener 'lugduname' has a sweetness up to 300,000x sucrose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugduname


Did you also see this thread?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36853090

> I have a slight fascination with sweeteners. About five years ago I imported a kilo of "Neotame" sweetener from a chem factory in Shanghai. It was claimed to be 10,000-12,000 times sweeter than sugar. It's a white powder and came in a metal can with a crimped lid and typically plain chemical labeling. Supposedly it is FDA-approved and a distant derivative of aspartame. US customs held it for two weeks before sending it on to Colorado with no explanation. When received, the box was covered in "inspected" tape and they had put the canister in a clear plastic bag. The crimped lid looked like a rottweiler chewed it open and white powder was all over the inside of the bag. I unwisely opened this in my kitchen with no respirator as advised by the MSDS which I read after the fact (I am not a smart man).

Despite careful handling of the bag, it is so fine in composition that a small cloud of powder erupted in front of me and a hazy layer of the stuff settled over the kitchen. Eyes burning and some mild choking from inhaling the cloud, I instantly marveled at how unbelievably sweet the air tasted, and it was delicious. For several hours I could still taste it on my lips. The poor customs inspector will have had a lasting memory of that container I'm pretty sure.

Even after a thorough wipe-down, to this day I encounter items in my kitchen with visually imperceptible amounts of residue. After touching it and getting even microscopic quantities of the stuff on a utensil or cup, bowl, plate, whatever, it adds an intense element of sweetness to the food being prepared, sometimes to our delight. I still have more than 900g even after giving away multiple baggies to friends and family (with proper safety precautions).

We have been hooked on it since that first encounter. I keep a 100mL bottle of solution in the fridge which is used to fill smaller dropper bottles. I've prepared that 100mL bottle three times over five years, and that works out to about 12g of personal (somewhat heavy) usage for two people in that time. Probably nowhere near the LD50.

I carry a tiny 30mL dropper bottle of the solution for sweetening the nasty office coffee and anything else as appropriate. Four drops to a normal cup of coffee. We sweeten home-carbonated beverages, oatmeal, baked goods (it is heat stable), use it in marinades, and countless other applications.

I don't know if it's safe. The actual quantity used is so incredibly tiny that it seems irrelevant. I'd sweeten my coffee with polonium-210 if it could be done in Neotame-like quantities. Between this, a salt shaker loaded with MSG and a Darwin fish on my car, I'm doomed anyway.


A new lab study was published yesterday, claiming potential adverse effects on gut health: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.13664...

I'm not competent to judge the methodology or results


Neotame is pretty nice stuff agreed.




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