Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

I do not mean to take anything away from black musicians, but the music people say started with blacks was massively changed by the music-executive types before it went mainstream.

The people who enjoyed the modified music would not recognize the pre-music-executive versions.



Pretty sure there's love for R.L. Burnside, Mississippi John Hurt, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Howlin Wolf, et al from Rolling Stones fans.

It's hard to imagine a modern lover of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbe5RERDh4k not recognising or appreciating https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWM82eQKdQk

Pre and Post Paul Simon ( Graceland (1987) ) mbaqanga music didn't change that much

Pre (1983) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq6qRpEZVTY

Post (1987) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR7UbvhVT8g


(1933) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiCEVl_9-MM

(1977) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_2D8Eo15wE&t=32s

EDIT: I like the Lead Belly interpretation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fii6PX0-VXs because it sounds like you start to swing the hammer on the beat, but it has enough inertia to land on the spike off the beat.

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeGImvYpk2U


Ram Jam??? What about Spiderbait from Oz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU1VfYYKMDk (or even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqGrzJHDwc4 )

I'd argue that despite the change in pace and instrumentation the original form and song can still be recognised and appreciated, the first version of this I heard was Lead Belly in about 1982 or so .. not a lot of TV in my part of the world growing up and not much time for that in the 'big' smoke at uni.

Going back to the GP assertion I still argue that people that enjoy modern modified forms of music can still recognise and appreciate the earlier forms.

(1930s) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLbaOLWjpc

(2020s) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdjhPHvH09I


Re Spiderbait @3:10, from the other side of the commonwealth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srp7k-9oCkw

as a geek, I'm a sucker for pedal steels, but lap steel gets the job done too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKRgb6nOis

Depressioncore rules, ok! (from the comments: "I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your [grand]kids are gonna love it.")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBQ3bNNwHs

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHhzvRZ2j6M


Every "pre" sample you give was heavily influenced by Hollyweird executives.

Their influence goes much farther back than you believe.


I am not criticizing anyone's music.

I am saying that there are formulas that make music widely popular, and the Hollyweird types knew those formulas before we started recording music. Everything you will ever hear is heavily influenced by them.


Which Hollywood executives heavily influenced Obed Ngobeni and Kurhula Sisters when recording the traditional song Ku hluvukile aka "Zete" ?




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: