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Not discounting your lament about memory use, this caught my eye:

> I would throw my computer out of the window if it takes more than a minute to boot up, even Windows 98 was faster!

Sure, Windows has grown a lot in size (as have other OSes). But startup is typically bounded by disk random access, not compute power or memory (granted, I don't use Windows, if 8GB is not enough to boot the OS then things are much worse than I thought). Have you tried putting an SSD in that thing?

(And yes, I realise the irony of saying "just buy more expensive hardware". But SSDs are actually really cheap these days.)



But that is true. My laptop with windows, i7, nvme, 32gb ram now feels the same as my old laptop with i7, SSD and 16gb ram did 7 years ago.

Bloat ware everywhere, especially browsers.


A brand new mid-range business PC is not as snappy as they were brand new 20 years ago with XP.

And that was on an IDE HDD, with memory speed, processor speed and cores a fraction of today, and 512MB of graphics memory or less.


This whole thread needs a huge amount of salt and some empirical examples. I think if you compared side-by-side it’d be different. I remember my upgrade from 2019 MacBook to M1, when every single task felt about 50% faster. Or from swapping a window laptop’s HDD with an SSD. (Absolutely massive performance improvement!) Waiting forever for older windows computers to boot, update, index or search files, install software, launch programs, etc. Waiting ages for an older iMac to render an iMovie timeline.

Others in the thread talking about the heyday of older spreadsheet and document programs that were just as fast. So? I bet you could write a book on the new features and more advanced tools that MS Excel offers today compared to 1995.

We went from things taking minutes to taking seconds. So you could improve things by 50% and that could be VERY noticeable. (1min to 30s, for example.) If your app already launches in 500ms, 250ms is not going to make your laptop feel 2x faster even if it is. On top of that, since speed has been good enough for general computing for several years now, new laptops focus more on energy efficiency. I bet that new laptop has meaningfully better battery and thermal performance!


> I bet you could write a book on the new features and more advanced tools that MS Excel offers today compared to 1995.

I'm sure you could, but it would be of interest to a relatively small audience. Excel 95 would be fine for about 90% of Excel users.


How advanced is excel now comparing with 2016 version?

New expensive laptop had the same "fast" feeling which fade with new iterations of software. Browser takes insane amount of CPU and memory but isn't faster.

Maybe some intense CPU tasks like zipping folder is faster then ever, but I'm not zipping all day. However Slack is behaving like there is server side remote rendering for each screen...


If you keep your software up to date, every hardware upgrade will feel like a significant improvement. But you're comparing the end of one hardware cycle to the beginning of the next. You regain by upgrading what you previously lost to gradual bloat.


I think Windows taking 1 minute on SSDs is typical, and it takes like 40 if you want to use a spinning magnet


Most of my windows PC's boot time happens before my computer even starts loading the OS. If I enabled fast boot in my bios, I'm pretty sure my PC would boot in around 15 seconds.




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