>a : having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities; valuable friendships
>b : of great use or service; valuable advice
Artists do not provide valuable work, but doesn't mean their work has no value. Not providing valuable work simply means their work is of (very) low value.
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>But you don't have to use those particular Internet channels in order to use the Internet.
There has been a substantial centralization and consolidation of the internet to varying degrees and for better or worse, both on the front and backends. The frontend centralization in particular is not being received well in recent times.
>Those effects have been around as long as humans have, ... You can't fix human nature by discarding useful tools because some people misuse them.
I don't know about "most". The very first meaning (1 a) in your reference is "having monetary value", which is how I have been using the word.
> Artists do not provide valuable work...their work is of (very) low value
Maybe not in your subjective judgment (and both of the definitions you cited for "valuable" are subjective), but other people's subjective judgment might differ from yours. Many people pay significant sums of money for the work of artists. Maybe that doesn't make the art "valuable" in your eyes, but it apparently does in theirs.
In any case, if you're going to talk about "society" as a whole, you can't just help yourself to your subjective judgment. The definition I just cited above of "valuable" is objective: people pay money for it. And people do pay money--in many cases significant sums, as I noted above--for art in our society, so I don't think you can say artists "do not provide valuable work" for society as a whole.
Yes, if push comes to shove, people will stop buying art before they will stop buying, say, food, clothing, and shelter. But in such a hypothetical, society is much poorer, so people are forced to focus on bare subsistence. But I don't think anyone would say such a society had a lot of valuable things in it--indeed, it's precisely the fact that such a society doesn't have a lot of valuable things in it that makes it poor. A rich society has many more valuable things in it than just what is needed for bare subsistence; that's what makes it rich. And people generally prefer a rich society to a poor one. Art is one of those valuable things that people in rich societies like to have. Not everyone, but people's tastes differ, and one of the nice things about rich societies is that it's much easier for people to satisfy their particular tastes, even if they're not common.
You keep on insisting I said art has no value and implying people don't pay. Please show me when and where I said that. I said art has a low real value and that its perceived value has historically been vastly overblown.
Yes, people pay money for art (including me), but the pricing has been steadily falling due to increasing supply (more artists) and efficiency (digital technologies). "AI" in particular is likely going to slash the perceived value lower than humanity has ever seen by making the creation of art dramatically more democratic, thereby reflecting the low real value better.
I consume a lot of art just like most other people, and also realize that I probably pay far too much for it all too because art just doesn't serve any of life's needs other than perhaps killing boredom and flaunting social status.
> the pricing has been steadily falling due to increasing supply (more artists)
The average price has because the increase in supply (which, as you say, is being dramatically facilitated by digital technologies and will be even more so by AI) drastically increases the variability in quality.
I think your categorical statements don't take into account that large variability.
> art just doesn't serve any of life's needs
I have already explained why I disagree with this. I think your concept of what has value is too narrow. I don't disagree that there is much "art" produced that has little or no value--and I don't spend any money on it. But that doesn't mean I think all art has little or no value. Some works of art--the ones I've spent significant money on--have had a great deal of value for me, and for many other people.
"Valuable" as in how most people use the word: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/valuable
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>a : having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities; valuable friendships
>b : of great use or service; valuable advice
Artists do not provide valuable work, but doesn't mean their work has no value. Not providing valuable work simply means their work is of (very) low value.
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>But you don't have to use those particular Internet channels in order to use the Internet.
There has been a substantial centralization and consolidation of the internet to varying degrees and for better or worse, both on the front and backends. The frontend centralization in particular is not being received well in recent times.
>Those effects have been around as long as humans have, ... You can't fix human nature by discarding useful tools because some people misuse them.
I agree.