> given your example it's "want", not "need"

Yes, how is this relevant? "Wants" are what drive humanity forward, not mere subsistence.

> Quick googling tells me that most European caravans are sub 1500kg / 3300lb, even the more spacious ones

Can you post a few links? Tried to find the most popular travel trailer models in Europe but not finding a good list.

Unless you're building the whole thing from carbon fiber, anything spacious is necessarily going to have some weight.

> anything spacious is

Ha, so it's spacious, not tiny and very little anymore...

Here's what seems to be the biggest one of that random brand well ranked on Google, 1330kg: https://www.caravelair-caravans.com/models/exclusive-line-58...

> Ha, so it's spacious, not tiny and very little anymore...

Playing gotcha word games is not the HN ethos.

To clarify, you brought up spacious travel trailers:

> most European caravans are sub 1500kg / 3300lb, even the more spacious ones

In contrast, the one I own is very small at 19ft, as mentioned upthread.