People have different work preferences; some thrive working from home, while others do better in the office. I think the strong opinions about mandated office days stem from the fact that the job doesn’t necessarily require employees to be physically present.

While jobs maybe not require someone been physically present. So far over the last 2 years seeing multiple businesses do return to office, productivity sky rocketed. Sure a few people who didn’t want to return to the office left, but turns out they weren’t that productive. People are easy to replace now.

What are these places? How is productivity being measured?

All this talk of data and I have yet to see _anything_.

What do you think about these remote CEOs/executives (like the new CEO of Starbucks or Elon)? Do they contribute little too?

lol you think Elon sits there writing shit at a desk? He delegates. Runs multiple businesses and floats about unblocking people and making sure progress is made.

Engineers don’t work like that.

This argument doesn't make sense.

1/ you're saying people managers should be allowed to work from home then?

2/ Why does delegation not require RTO but writing shit at a desk does?

You probably don’t need most of those managers. And you missed the point of Elon being on site.

im still not understanding your point. When did you say elon is on site? how can he be onsite 5 days per week when he is CEO of Tesla, xAI, SpaceX (and up until recently, X).

lol have you ever run a business? Worked in management? Or have you only ever been at the bottom of the food chain?

Yes and yes and yes.

I have worked remotely in all of those positions.