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According to the article they link[1], the 1% richest is defined as earning more than $109,000 in 2015. So basically, they want to tax the people who already pay the most taxes. Actually rich people having the means to avoid paying taxes altogether, it's the educated middle class that's once again expected to pay for opaque, poorly managed, and unaccountable government programs.

Glad I live in Switzerland.

[1] https://www.oxfam.org/fr/communiques-presse/les-1-les-plus-r....



> the 1% richest is defined as earning more than $109,000 in 2015

Why are they using a global threshold? What fraction of Europeans does this cover? (How is that distributed?)


They are not. The proposal text itself doesn't mention taxing "the 1% richest" or any threshold at all really. It's quite vague on the specifics:

> Firstly, we call on the European Commission to draft a proposal for a directive establishing a European excess wealth tax, based on Article 115 TFEU.

In any case, the proposal is for a wealth tax, so income is irrelevant. I think the proposed wealth threshold for taxation is supposed to vary by country.


The problem with "taxing the rich". If we're talking Bezos, Musk and Gates, that's 3 people. To have any decent amount of extra income for states, they must tax "the 1%", and really "the 10%".

And if we're then talking about amounts, everybody will immediately, and rightly, claim that "the 1%" is not a livable wage in X. And they're right. You cannot live in Amsterdam on 66000 EUR per year. I mean, it's probably possible, with a great many compromises, but not really.

The problem is:

"the 1%" in Europe (EU-27): anything more than 66000 EUR

"the 10%" in Europe (EU-27): anything more than 34000 EUR

I think these figures are not talking about individual income, but about FAMILY income (both partners). It's EU-27 because it used to be EU-28, and then Brits decided ...

So, in the Netherlands, I believe that means more than 80% of the population is in "the 10%" of Europe and almost 60% of the population is in "the 1%" of Europe. I doubt even Dutch communists would support this tax.


The $109k number comes from a separate article, not from this proposal.


They don't bother explaining


The problem with a one size fits all threshold is that it does not consider the regional costs of living.

Imagine earning $109,000 in Philippines verse earning the same amount in New York City?

Is the person in New York City really rich if they are paying 40% of their income for a 1 bedroom apartment?


Yet most of the initiatives we see otherwise propose to reduce the tax on the rich, for whatever definition they give to the "rich". So this initiative is fresh wind, as misconfigured as it might look. Look at it as food for thought and start from there.


Wealth =/= income, if you bothered to read the website.


That's still off.

I take these things a bit personally, because for many years, I sort of owned my job, and the valuations of my home and my job added up to more than 100% of my wealth. Fair enough, having a well-paying job is valuable.

But with the way we usually compute wealth, most wealth is ultimately connected to an organisation skilled people doing well-paying jobs, and the person who has a well-paying job is seldom the person whose wealth is proposed to be taxed. Taking that into considerations makes the proposals look rather… wrong.


People considering $100,000 and even up to $200,000 rich is just idiotic, especially when considering where the person lives and if they have kids.

It can definitely be a comfortable lifestyle on a budget, but it is by no means rich. Housing costs alone makes it blatantly middle class. Add in kids which brings it own costs, and saving for college, which is basically a 2nd mortgage if you save what you're supposed to, and that income range is just getting by like everyone else

They just might have a bigger house, nicer cars, and can take better vacations. But they are busting their ass for those slight luxuries.


Do you mean $200,000 a year or in assets?

By any means, I don't see how that's "blatantly middle class", even considering housing costs. Housing costs are the same whether you're wealthy or not.

More money means more money, if you have more, you're not "getting by like everyone else". Everyone else also has to pay all those things, wealthy or not.

Also I'd argue that most people in that range aren't busting their ass more than anyone living at minimum wage.




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