> Razor blades are 100% locked up, the electronics sections is more or less for show
Ok, but both of those things have been behind cases for a decade+. I remember needing to get an associate to get a Nintendo 64 game from the cabinet at Toys-R-Us. I'm talking about the recent push to put darn near everything in cabinets, not the highest risk things. Cabinets so pervasive you can't even buy socks or Tylenol or toothpaste without getting an associate. Walmart and Target stores where there are turnstiles to get in and out of the store. CVS/Walgreens locations where practically every isle is locked cabinets. I'm talking about the recent push to put far more stuff in cabinets. I don't think you've seen the kinds of stores these people here are actually talking about if you're thinking razorblades in cabinets are the epitome of what people here are complaining about.
> they may believe they're preventing shop lifting, but they're not.
> No, they think "this will prevent shoplifting" - and it does.
So they aren't preventing shoplifting with the cabinets, but the cabinets prevent shoplifting. The mental dissonance here is astounding.
> a lot of this is 100% their own fault.
Blaming the victim here. If they didn't want their stuff stolen they wouldn't have made it so easy to steal!
I'm not of the opinion that multi-billion dollar corporations can even be victims. They have too much capital and political power to be victims of anything.
> So they aren't preventing shoplifting with the cabinets, but the cabinets prevent shoplifting. The mental dissonance here is astounding
You're misunderstanding.
The cabinets DO prevent shoplifting, obvious. The question is SHOULD THEY? I think corps jumped on the opportunity without the proper analysis.
> put darn near everything in cabinets, not the highest risk things
Right. Which is why I'm shocked you don't believe, or refuse to consider, the fact that these corps DID NOT do the proper risk analysis here. If they're putting penny items behind locks my mind naturally will wonder if that's worth it.
Instead, you're concluding that the shoplifting must be so incredibly severe that even penny items must be locked up. This seems wildly unreasonable to me. What, is every other person a mass shoplifter?
You literally stated these cabinets are not preventing shoplifting. Direct quote from your previous comment.
> they may believe they're preventing shop lifting, but they're not
I'll take it as maybe you misspoke here, but I don't see any other way of reading that other than "they're not [preventing shop lifting]".
The person I was originally replying to was absolutely suggesting shoplifting practically doesn't happen and that these cabinets are entirely unrelated to shoplifting. That no, they did not set up these cabinets as any response to shoplifting. So, it's not obvious to a lot of people.
> The question is SHOULD THEY?
Uh, yeah, they should prevent shoplifting. Shoplifting increases costs for everyone actually trying to buy things. Overall, we should be trying to prevent and stop shoplifting, its bad for society overall. Unless you're arguing rampant theft is a good thing overall for society and a society which steals all the time is a healthy and good society.
> What, is every other person a mass shoplifter?
In some locations, kind of? As I've mentioned elsewhere in this thread I've personally seen people come into stores, open a box of trash bags, fill the bags with stuff, and walk out the store. It happens, and quite often in some places.
> If they're putting penny items
They're not penny items. They're $20+ items which are now far easier to resell thanks to things like Amazon not questioning where stuff comes from and the rise of people using Facebook Marketplace and other online storefronts like that. Remember, a bottle of Tylenol or cold medicine or a pack of Fruit of the Loom socks can now be around $25. Grab a dozen or so of each of these items, sell them at half price, and you're up a few hundred bucks. Pretty low risk since so many jurisdictions these days won't actually enforce it at all, and technically there's nothing illegal about selling socks on Facebook Marketplace.
These kinds of organized shoplifting groups have greatly increased in the past few years. Usage of things like FBM exploded. But hey, you were just arguing shoplifting hasn't increased much, so you'll probably also argue this just doesn't happen.
> the fact that these corps DID NOT do the proper risk analysis here
You're stating it as if it is a fact. Where's the actual hard analysis you're presenting to prove this fact? Why do you refuse consider that maybe they did do the analysis? Just a few days ago you were of the opinion shoplifting was trending down, why are your thoughts from your wandering mind absolute truths?
Ok, but both of those things have been behind cases for a decade+. I remember needing to get an associate to get a Nintendo 64 game from the cabinet at Toys-R-Us. I'm talking about the recent push to put darn near everything in cabinets, not the highest risk things. Cabinets so pervasive you can't even buy socks or Tylenol or toothpaste without getting an associate. Walmart and Target stores where there are turnstiles to get in and out of the store. CVS/Walgreens locations where practically every isle is locked cabinets. I'm talking about the recent push to put far more stuff in cabinets. I don't think you've seen the kinds of stores these people here are actually talking about if you're thinking razorblades in cabinets are the epitome of what people here are complaining about.
> they may believe they're preventing shop lifting, but they're not.
> No, they think "this will prevent shoplifting" - and it does.
So they aren't preventing shoplifting with the cabinets, but the cabinets prevent shoplifting. The mental dissonance here is astounding.
> a lot of this is 100% their own fault.
Blaming the victim here. If they didn't want their stuff stolen they wouldn't have made it so easy to steal!