I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there).
Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the potential to be a person that's always available.
Just as an FYI: I recently learned (here on HN) that this is called Body Doubling[0] there's some services around (there's at least one by someone that hangs around here) that can do this too.
The parent might be referring to us: https://workmode.net/. Most of our clients work from home. Do you have a specific concern about body doubling and working from home?
That’s interesting, I never considered something like that.
But at that low price, surely you have a bunch of customers being watched by each employee, and then talking to only one at a time — isn’t it distracting to see your “double” chatting away with the sound off?
No, nobody has ever complained about it (and yes, we did ask). When we first started, we were really concerned about it, so we tried to move as little as possible, avoid hand gestures, and so on. However, it turned out to be a non-issue.
Fun fact: I’d estimate that 50% of users don’t even look at their Productivity Partner while they work. WorkMode runs in another tab, and users rarely switch back to it. They don’t need to see us - they just need to know we’re watching. I’m in that group.
Some unsolicited feedback (please feel free to ignore):
When I click on "Pricing" in the nav bar, it scrolls down, and the first thing that catches my eye is "$2100 / month". I happened to see this time that this is the benefit you're projecting and it is actually $2.50/hour. On the previous times I've visited your website based on your HN comments, I've always thought $2100/month was what you were going to charge me and closed the tab.
I've been frustrated myself that people don't read what's right there on the page when they come to my startup app's landing page. Turns out I do the same. Hope this helps you improve the layout / font sizes and such "information hierarchy" so the correct information is conveyed at a glance.
IMHO $2.50/hour is great value, and stands on its own. I know how much my time is worth, so perhaps the page doesn't really have to shout that to convince me.
Again, please feel free to ignore this as it is quite possible that it is just me with the attention span of a goldfish with CTE while clicking around new websites.
Thank you! I hadn’t thought of it that way, but what you wrote makes total sense and explains the engagement issues we’re seeing with the calculator and the pricing section.
> Again, please feel free to ignore this as it is quite possible that it is just me with the attention span of a goldfish with CTE while clicking around new websites.
Most of our clients have issues with attention span, so your feedback is gold :-) Again, thank you!
I understand if the window were taller, I'd have seen the actual price cards. I think it's just that when you click "Pricing", you expect the next obvious number you see to be the price.
Yes, they monitor several people simultaneously. Most clients ask us to check in on their progress every 15–30 minutes, and these interactions can last anywhere from a few seconds to three minutes, depending on the client and the challenges they're facing. It might be boring when working with a single person, but it gets more challenging as more people connect.
Also, we do more than just body doubling. Some clients need to follow a morning ritual before starting their work (think meditation, a quick house cleanup, etc.). Sometimes, we perform sanity checks on their to-do lists (people often create tasks that are too vague or vastly underestimate the time needed to complete them). We ask them to apply the 2-minute rule, and so on. It all depends on the client's needs.
Interesting! I see how this could work for inattentive procrastinators. By "inattentive procrastinators", I mean people who are easily distracted and forget that they need to work on their tasks. Once reminded, they return to their tasks without much fuss.
However, I doubt it would work for hedonistic procrastinators. When body doubling, hedonistic procrastinators rely on social pressure to be productive. Using AI likely won't work unless the person perceives the AI as a human.
You don't necessarily need to believe the AI is a human for it to tickle the ingrained social instincts you're looking for. For example, I'm quite aware that AI's are just tools, and yet I still feel a strong need to be "polite" in my requests to ChatGPT. "Please do ...." or "Can you...?" and even "Thanks, that worked! Now can you..." etc.
I do the same, but I think it's because we were taught to be polite and to conduct conversations in a certain way.
Do you put effort into being polite when ChatGPT makes a mistake and you correct it? Do you try to soften the blow to avoid hurting its "feelings"? Do you feel bad if you respond impolitely? I don't.
So why not fire 3 of your colleges and have another whos new job is watching over/checking in on you and by your own account productivity would be about the same. Save your company some money it will be appreciated!
On an unrelated note, I believe people need to start quantifying their outrageous ai productivity claims or shut up.
I'm intrigued to know whether that actually ends up working. I am something like that myself, but I don't know whether it is an effect of getting feedback or of having a person behind the feedback.
There's definitely an ideal setup that's needed in order for it to work. I'm also not quite sure what part of the other person being present causes me to focus better (i.e., whether it's the presence vs good ideas and feedback).
I'm leaning toward saying that the main issue for me is that I need to keep my focus on things that are active engagement rather than more passive engagement like taking notes versus just reading a passage.
Your "parent" kicked you into gear because you have an emotional bond with them. A stranger might cause your guards to go up if you do not respect them as with wisdom. So too may go an AI.
I used the term "parent" here because it was the descriptor I thought people would understand best.
For me personally, I was awful at working when my parents were hovering over me.
In the past, I used to work with a professor on a project and we'd spend significant amounts of time on zoom calls working (this was during COVID). The professor wouldn't even be helping me the entire time, but as soon as I was blocked, I'd start talking and the ideas would bounce back and forth and I'd find a solution significantly quicker.
So I watched the demo video on your site, and honestly I'm not sure how this is really all that much better than what can already be done with ChatGPT.
The key is, I don't want to have to initiate the contact. Hand holding the AI myself defeats the purpose. The ideal AI assistant is one that behaves as if it's a person that's sitting next to me.
Imagine you're a junior that gets on a teams call to get help via pair programming with your boss. For anything more than just a quick fix, pair programming on calls tends to turn into the junior working on something, hitting a roadblock, and the boss stepping in to provide input.
Here's the really important part that I've realized: very rarely will the input that the boss provides be something that is leaps and bounds outside of the ability of the junior. A lot of it will just be asking questions or talking the problem through until it turns the gears enough for the junior to continue on their own. THAT right there. That's the gear turning AI agent I'm looking for.
If someone could develop a tool that "knows" the right time to jump in and talk with you, then I think we'd see huge jumps in productivity for people.
I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there).
Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the potential to be a person that's always available.