> All passkeys do now is clutter up the one login flow that works for me
You can always disable that in the settings with one click.
> I still can't use passkeys reliably. The combination of bad implementations in Windows, Chrome, 1Password, and various websites has defeated me.
I can't speak for how bad things are on Windows, but my flow on macOS (Firefox) and iOS (Safari) is the following:
- Try to set up a passkey at a site offering them.
- Log out and attempt to log back in using the passkey. If it works (and it does for 80-90% of all sites), great, use it in the future!
- If it doesn't work, delete the passkey, make a mental (or actual, in the password manager) note that the site has a broken implementation or very bad user experience, for future shaming in threads such as this. (Hi, Amazon and Paypal!)
Obviously that's not viable for non-technical users, but it does save me a lot of time in the long run, since every subsequent login is so much faster than using whatever second factor sites are requiring me to provide otherwise.
>Log out and attempt to log back in using the passkey. If it works (and it does for 80-90% of all sites)
... and right there is a big part of the reason I distrust the current passkey implementations. That's an absurdly low success rate, and I see similar numbers echoed by many people who use them, regardless of the site's importance to their life or apparent technical ability. (my own dabbling has an even worse success rate, though I've somehow managed to dodge multiple complete-passkey-data-loss issues in clients)
And for some reason it doesn't seem to be getting much more consistently working either.
You can always disable that in the settings with one click.
> I still can't use passkeys reliably. The combination of bad implementations in Windows, Chrome, 1Password, and various websites has defeated me.
I can't speak for how bad things are on Windows, but my flow on macOS (Firefox) and iOS (Safari) is the following:
- Try to set up a passkey at a site offering them.
- Log out and attempt to log back in using the passkey. If it works (and it does for 80-90% of all sites), great, use it in the future!
- If it doesn't work, delete the passkey, make a mental (or actual, in the password manager) note that the site has a broken implementation or very bad user experience, for future shaming in threads such as this. (Hi, Amazon and Paypal!)
Obviously that's not viable for non-technical users, but it does save me a lot of time in the long run, since every subsequent login is so much faster than using whatever second factor sites are requiring me to provide otherwise.