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The stock market needs to just be deleted. It’s the insider trading scam machine of the rich class.

The whole goal of the stock market is to come up with information that people don’t generally have (insider trading) either from research, or secret info, so you can dupe everyone else’s money.



Delete along with publicly traded companies, or what’s the plan?


It makes sense to allow public investment in companies, but base it off (regulated) external valuation rather than real time supply/demand.

Have a limit on how frequently a company can get revalued (months).

Do everything possible to make it a long term investment tool and not something that can be easily gamed. This is also less stressful for the individual investor — most people I know who trade stocks also check the stocks 10+ times per day and it occupies such a large area of their headspace.


> (regulated) external valuation

Is that not the SEC and Generally Accepted Accounting Principals (GAAP)?

> Have a limit on how frequently a company can get revalued (months).

Is that not quarterly reports and earnings filings?

> Do everything possible to make it a long term investment tool and not something that can be easily gamed

Your suggestion was to delete it. One suggestion I've heard is to increase the transaction price, and marginally increase it with trading volume by the given actor. Micro-transactions become too expensive to be profitable.


Socialism. Worked well in the past (:


You can have a market economy without immortal corporations. This is something Quigley pointed out a long time ago. The varieties of persona ficta we have created is unlike anything in history. Even the old British charters were limited in terms of either duration, operations, or both. Modern corporations can do whatever they want for as long as they want. They are mostly insulated from criminal law. An individual poisons the town, he gets the lynch mob. A team of executives poisons the town (after days/weeks of cool deliberation), they get bonuses.


Most companies are not publicly traded. Getting rid of the stock market doesn't mean that your local coffee shop is now state-owned. And if they sell specialty coffee, it may not even impact the price of the beans.


The brilliant thing is that they have woven it deep into the retirement ponzi-schemes, so nothing short of a cataclysm will unwind it.

There is also the Machiavellian consideration of external threats. We need these corporations to make the tools of Ahriman. Without them, another country's corporations will make them first, and use them to subjugate us. People who believe in God (not just the Abrahamic one, but any good creator) prefer not to play this game, but most people are strict materialists, so they are locked into this equation.


Sorry I don’t really understand the part about the tools of Ahriman, would you mind to explain?


Technology of all sorts. Engineering, finance, management, etc. I am leaning more on the Steiner interpretation than the strict Zoroastrian one. One could also say "The Devil", but that will really get you people squealing. One could refer to the apocryphal "Book of Enoch" for the details on that one.


When they say stock market returns 7% on average, it's >7% for the insiders/manipulators and <7% for the regular Joe.




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