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If there's one underlying axiom of western thought it is "question everything." So no, not really.


> If there's one underlying axiom of western thought it is "question everything."

I don't believe this, even for a second.

How are those that truly do question everything treated?

Well, as either looney conspiracy theorists, or vindicated activists, depending on when the official State narrative (or classification status) changes.

Not always, or even often unjustified, but I hardly think you can call it an "underlying axiom of western thought" with the extreme negative public sentiment towards it.


Gasp! Are you referring to a lively marketplace of ideas and the intrinsic dynamics of competition within that marketplace?

Nobody said it's without cost to hold non-consensus views. The point is that those costs are incurred by the marketplace of ideas itself (people being "mean" to you, not the state beheading you) and that, in the long run, correct views become the consensus through winning such competitions over and over again.

There are alternative regimes where incorrect views can reign indefinitely because they choose to prevent people from criticizing each others' views.


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You're inverting my point.

I was saying that the narrative of a single truth was western propaganda and that the world is more nuanced than that.

There's many truths. That simple dichotomy "truth vs propaganda" is a staple of the western approach to propaganda.


I have an exercise for you:

One country illegally occupies quarter of another country in 2014 and launches full blown invasion in 2022.

Question: how many truths are there?


It depends on your ideology. If you believe in international law, sovereignty and self-determination of peoples, as I do, you will have a different truth than if you believe in dominionism, might makes right, panslavism and historical revisionism as the majority of the Russian population does.

That's exactly my point, your truth is a reflection of your world view and your ideology.

It is silly to assume one's truth as universal and doing so kills all nuance.


Philosophical ramblings are irrelevant when it comes to international law.


International law is irrelevant when it comes to people's perception of truth.


So the only truth is people's perception of truth?


Yes. As humans are inherently ideological and subjective beings, that is all we will ever have.


So killing you is not an inherently immoral act and should be justified under someone's ideological standpoint?


The morality of killing, as everything else, is a question of ideology.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_are_murderers for a famous debate on this subject.


So the answer is yes.


Correct. There is no objectivity.




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