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Huge skepticism that bicycles and motorcycles were getting backed into in any appreciable quantities.


If not that then rear-ended, here's the state's report on how red light cameras increased accidents: https://dot.nj.gov/transportation/about/publicat/lmreports/p...


How many people you willing to put in the hospital to prevent people from technically running reds on the yellow-red transition?


> in 2023, 1,086 people were killed in crashes that involved red light running

https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/red-light-running

So let's use that as an upper bound.

How many people were killed by these backups you're talking about?




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