getting rid of javascript entirely means to be able to manipulate the DOM without writing any javascript code. not to remove javascript from the browser. javascript will still be there if you want to use it.

Most of the time your toolchain provides a shim so you don’t need to write JS anyway. What’s the difference?

right, that's exactly the point. those that have a shim already successfully got rid of javascript, and that's enough.

Fair enough, I misunderstood what he meant by "deprecate JS runtimes".