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That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models.

Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.



He was happy enough to be able to spell s3xy with those cars. Maybe they could have come up with something extremely juvenile for him to do while they designed a rivian


Like make the integrated voice-activated AI have a setting to swear at and insult you while driving


Idea: A car that detects when there's only one occupant, and shouts expletives through the audio system when the driver narrowly avoids hitting something at high speed.


Call it a model 69 and be done

Or maybe model 6/7 would be better for him nowadays


You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right?


> You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right?

"all input is error" - elon musk

wdyt? From where I'm sitting anyone with that position would deprecate the input devices...


Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.


He actually shares a lot in common with his former(?) friend Kanye West. Both crave the validation of others, but when they get it, instead of being satisfied, they become even more needy and insecure. So they pursue anything except what they're actually good at because then if they fail at the thing people actually value them for, it would be too painful. And they surround themselves with yes men who tell them how great they are. All these factors make them more and more isolated and insecure. Combine that with drugs, alcohol, and sex and you have a toxic brew.

You may say this armchair analysis is unfair, but both these men have been so candid, veiled by the thinnest layer of irony, that it's impossible not to see how fragile they are.


I don't think this is unfair at all. I mean this literally has to be one of the three oldest stories ever? And I mean that literally. There is no more timeless a story than: "man gets powerful enough to eliminate negative feedback, becomes stupid/ineffective/self-damaging"


Kanye made some incredible music in his day, at least. I still listen to College Dropout and Dark Twisted Fantasy.


Kanye's beat/producer credits are also amazing.


"No idea" doesn’t sound right.

I’d say he thinks he has many superpowers, but maybe in reality just has one.


His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government.

He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts


> as demonstrated by his time in government

Without actually getting into the specific actions he took while in government, I dare say that what he did during that time was material to people's revulsion and that a different version of him who took different actions would have been differently popular.


For sure but deciding what to do is part of political instincts. He rolled in, threw some "roman salutes" fired tons of people in an insanely chaotic way while waving a chainsaw around on stage then showed up in the Whitehouse with a black eye he blamed on his toddler


He did better at hiding his worst instincts. I honestly think the Ketamine has destroyed his ability to hide his worst instincts.

Not saying there weren't leaks that he was a huge asshole. Just saying that I could forgive people for over looking it early on.


That's a requirement, part of being in a cult is being rejected by "outsiders" so that you think you have no other options other than staying in the cult.

Classic abusive behavior.


Yeah, most cults are repulsive to most outsiders. Their power is completely derived from the intensity of the in-group's commitment.


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The benchmark for good management is higher than “often delivers.”

I have no issue calling Musk a wildly successful businessman as he has made several great investments including getting companies off the ground, however his track record for actually running things is questionable. Was ‘taking Tesla over from its founders’ a good idea or not is different than ‘was investing in Tesla’ a good idea. Financially it definitely allowed him to extract more money from the company so it’s a good business decision, but as far as actually running things I don’t know.

The Roadster v2 is a no show and the Cybertruck is a failure, the 3 on the other hand is successful but part of the initial pitch for the company. The minimally innovative model Y is arguably his biggest success as a manager. Even the charging network Telsa’s biggest strategic advantage has become deprioritized. Boring, X, and Tesla Solar have clearly been mismanaged. Neuralink is a long way from delivering anything viable as a company.

The parts of SpaceX he’s seemingly ignoring are doing way better than the bits under his focus. Starlink is doing well and he definitely had a hand on that so that’s something significant.


He literally doesn't deliver.

SpaceX is the only company of his that consistently delivers and that's effectively not operated by him.


He is clearly still very involved in the strategy of spacex. I don't think he actually cares much about cars these days.


SpaceX’s strategy has been really questionable for a while.

Falcon Heavy has done 11 flights since 2018 and now they’re building an even larger platform despite heavy launch not really being a viable market segment. Starship has been slower than the now canceled SLS program run by Boing. If Starship succeeds it seems to guarantee than Falcon Heavy will have a negative ROI, but Starship needs to be wildly successful to have a positive ROI.

Starlink helps justify a high launch capacity, but isn’t in need of a heavy launch platform. A more reusable Falcon 9 would have simplified thermal issues, reduced R&D costs, and presumably increased profits much sooner. That IMO would have been a far better strategy than scaling, up while changing to a wildly different engine, and targeting increased reusability, etc.


Falcon Heavy isn't relevant to anything SpaceX is doing with Starlink.

Seems you've never heard of creative destruction.

The things they intend to do with Starship aren't possible with Falcon 9 or Heavy period


> Falcon Heavy isn't relevant to anything SpaceX is doing with Starlink.

You misunderstood my point, Starlink only cares about lower cost per kg to LEO. Spaceship is trying to do that and increase payload capacity.

Spaceship trying to do both is a major reason its R&D costs are so high. Where Falcon heavy is relevant is it demonstrates that there’s little demand for Shapeship’s significant increase in cargo capacity. There’s little economic justification that paying for the size related added R&D complexity driving up both timelines and costs is going to be worth it.

> Seems you've never heard of creative destruction

I was arguing for creative destruction namely killing off all manufacturing of Falcon 9 rockets which would then make Falcon heavy non viable without the economies of scale on the first stage.

> The things they intend to do with Starship aren't possible with Falcon 9 or Heavy period

The things that depend on cost per kg could be accomplished with a NEW but smaller than Starship rocket that could already be in service if they had gone down a different path. The only thing they gain from its current size is the ability to send payloads of that size.

It’s not my money being wasted here, but I’d like SpaceX to be on better financial footing simply to reduce the risks to Starlink.


Clearly how? Seems to me analogous to Tesla where the one thing he's clearly fixated on (Cybertruck and Starship) are very likely to be flops and potentially take down each company as a whole.


Starship will definitely ship Starlink


If that’s all it does, it’s a failed program


If that's all it does it will be successful.


This is just literally financially not true.


That makes absolutely no sense financially in particular, where do you think SpaceX makes money?


Am I the only one who works in an org where the strategy team, on a good day, is completely decoupled from efforts that result in delivery. On a normal day they actively sabotage those efforts.

Like promising your team will create a Mars colony by 2036 while they're trying to make commercial rocketry efficient and safe.


> If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea.

-Antoine de Saint-Exupéry


... famous for having built fuck all.

I mean yes, it is often good to inspire people. But that is not strategy any more than you can win a game of Risk by beliving you can roll only 7s.


I only know one person currently at spaceX, but I'm willing to bet there's a large contingent of people working there who would sell their souls to die on Mars.

I'll be honest, I've never been the CEO of a successful 10,000+ employee company (or even an unsuccessful one, lol), but at that level, the amount of doing that a person can do themselves is limited.




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