Some would say Tesla has been over hyped as well.

dzhiurgis · 2025-11-13T19:18:11 1763061491

They can say, but in open markets Teslas sell better than cheaper BYD’s.

ben_w · 2025-11-13T20:02:32 1763064152

1. Are there any truly open markets for cars?

2. Tesla China has factories in China, was still #8 in Chinese market, with BYD at #1, if this source from 2024 is correct: https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/14/best-selling-vehicle-bra...

dzhiurgis · 2025-11-13T20:24:06 1763065446

Australia, NZ.

I've test drove my mates atto3, I have model y. He's got lots of regrets, fixes. It's made from good materials, styled poorly and technology is like everyone else - poorly done. Price does reflect it, no free lunch.