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Can you explain to me what is being exploited here? I had to do KYC for Hetzner, for anything crypto related in the last decade, and a number of other things.

Age-gating porn doesnt seem problematic to at all. In fact it's far less worrisome than any of the former, which are kind of important for commerce. What am I missing?



Once there is a record of what porn you looked at, people, government, employeers won't hire you. could be based on that you looked at all, or that you looked at the wrong kind. Wrong = whatever fetish you're into and your employeer/government/health-ins doesn't like.


I assume that literally all porn is a data honeypot. Don't you?


Wait, so porn is ok, it's fetish that is bad? So if HR is into brazilian farting fetish, entire company will be run by brazilian farting fetishists?


Lets just hope there's no government that wants to incriminate certain sexuality and gender, then all these logged KYC for every little social thing will be very dangerous.


Sure, I think KYC is a big problem.

But personally, I'm much more concerned about it in regular commerce.

A huge swath of the population thinks that porn is inherently harmful. An even bigger swath thinks that it should be completely separated from both. I agree with both of these things.

I'm also strongly against censorship, so I'm trying to figure out how people are worried this is being used. I do not, at all, consider age-gating Playboy at the gas station to be censorship.

If you think your porn habits are not already being logged and tracked by intelligence agencies, I think you are fully delusional.


The issue isn't age-gating Playboy, but to begin censoring requires a line to be drawn, and there's no guarantee that educational material regarding LGTBQ topics wont be considered "adult" or "pornographic".

The whole "know it when you see it" doesn't work when there's a significant group out there who would love to see queer people at large go away from society. With this, you now have teenagers being blocked from actual educational material because Carol from the "burn everyone but me" church down the street believes anything regarding sexuality is "adult" material.

The thing with the porn habits being logged by intelligence agencies, is that data has a large risk-reward for actually being used. They wouldn't burn the secret of their capabilities for something small. Most of the metadata wouldn't be admissible in court assuming courts don't go full kangaroo. The usage of the metadata is general intelligence to point investigations, or parallel reconstruction to get warrants for someone they don't actually have anything on, but want to search.

Doing KYC American style for porn/adult content means mass data leaks are a matter of "when", because there's no consumer protection and this data will be retained indefinitely because ads make money. The leak means real people are put in real danger.


So your position is that pornography must be fully unrestricted because any attempt to curb it would inevitably infringe on gay rights?


Any attempt to tie pornography to real identification without a real zero trust zero log solution is going to infringe on many rights.

Flashing your ID at the store to buy a playboy doesn't go into a data set for years to come. Sure your credit card will, but you can opt to pay cash.




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