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16 is still less than 18 (that is what I was arguing about with that friend).

And wrote I mean the Hafez part or whatever, I don't know enough about the subject to use correct technical terms like that.

For example the Bible (I am christian) has parts of it that were inspired by God, but we still say that whoever put it on the paper is author to simplify some (non-theological) discussions.



Pretty big difference between 9 and 16, though. Like, say, 16 being the age of consent in most countries.

And I've come to the conclusion that if you don't know about someone's religion, it's best not to criticise it, because you might just end up looking like an ignorant idiot.


16 years old is also no longer considered minor as far as sex is concerned in many, many countries. A bit on the creepy side for someone on the other side of 20 to date, yes, but not illegal.


Of the age range from 9-16 years old, 3/4s of the ages are 14 or younger and fairly taboo. Picking the age of 16 and invalidating his point is obtuse.


A bit on the creepy side for someone on the other side of 20 to date

For some people, perhaps. Individuals differ, I've met a few 16yo girls who were very much adult, as far as their intellect, personality and temperament were concerned, and I have a very hard time trying to picture a relationship with someone more mature than an average 20yo male as "creepy".


The thing that matters is the power imbalance, which would be nearly always present. This is highly undesirable, as it invalidates consent to a large degree (i.e. while the initial consent might be unquestionable, it gets really murky when things get into withdrawing it). It's similar as with employee-boss relationships and teacher-student. All of those can imaginably be okay, but the amount of dominance that the superior has over their partner makes things at least suspicious.

In fact, the "temperament" thing is one of the most commonly invalid, as having the "temperament" higher at 16 than 25 is not really that uncommon, intellect basically stays the same until 30, just gaining experience (!). And yet your 16 year old is (most likely) going to be dependent on their parents, and people will treat the older partner significantly more seriously even if they're a drunken slob, because the younger one is "a child" (and despite the older one being perceived as creepy. Ain't society great?).


Sixteen is still considered a minor in almost all countries. The age of consent is not the same as the age of majority.


He did say "minor as far as sex is concerned" - i.e. talking about the age of consent.




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